27 Mar 14
Originally posted by EladarSo what are you trying to say here? That financial incentives to not waste energy must be just a conspiracy to keep "the average guy in his place" and therefore there should be no such incentive?
Exactly, which means it simply keeps the average guy in his place.
27 Mar 14
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Originally posted by humyI am saying that it is the result. Just think what the average guy could do if energy bills were cut in half, like they are for big business.
So what are you trying to say here? That financial incentives to not waste energy must be just a conspiracy to keep "the average guy in his place" and therefore there should be no such incentive?
Greenies like you are duped individuals helping the super rich to keep the average person down.
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by EladarI am NOT a "Greeny"! I am for nuclear energy (where and when it is economical ), for GM etc. and against much of what the extremest environmentalists say for being delusional and irrational. How would, say, artificially increasing the energy bill via a carbon tax help the super rich?
I am saying that it is the result. Just think what the average guy could do if energy bills were cut in half, like they are for big business.
Greenies like you are duped individuals helping the super rich to keep the average person down.
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by wolfgang59You are paying 25 cents per kilowatthour?
Back of an envelope calculation shows that I'll save about 600kWhours
of electricity in the kitchen per year. At 25c a unit that's $150. They
cost me $180. So my break even is in about a year.
But the quality of light is so much better!
And better for the environment - the led bulbs are easier to recycle.
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by humyI'm not a greeny because I don't belong to ELF, nice logic there buddy.
I am NOT a "Greeny"! I am for nuclear energy (where and when it is economical ), for GM etc. and against much of what the extremest environmentalists say for being delusional and irrational. How would, say, artificially increasing the energy bill via a carbon tax help the super rich?
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by EladarMy guess is I would do pretty much the same if my energy bill (which is less than USD 30/month) would be cut in half.
I am saying that it is the result. Just think what the average guy could do if energy bills were cut in half, like they are for big business.
Greenies like you are duped individuals helping the super rich to keep the average person down.
27 Mar 14
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Originally posted by EladarMost "greenies" are not members of the Earth Liberation Front but still against nuclear, GM, etc. I have no more in common with the "greenies" than the average thinking person who disagrees with most of what they say -and I noticed I disagree even more than that average person! I should know -I met the boring git just the other day.
I'm not a greeny because I don't belong to ELF, nice logic there buddy.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by wolfgang59Wow, it's a good thing you don't have bad winters. We pay less than half of that here. And I still pay 250 bucks a month for electrons. And another 300 for gas. That is the 'budget' plan, every month all year round. 550 bucks a month just for those two bills. Then water gigs me another 180 bucks a month. Nice, huh? Telephone, internet, TV another 200 a month. house 1300 a month. Last month it was 1080. 200 bucks a month increase in one month. Increase in taxes, SO sorry about that Don. Oh yeah, then there is the 300 buck car payment, and 180 bucks a month for car insurance.
We pay up to 25c (that's NZ cents). Minimum of about 22c in summer.
So between 19 - 22 US cents (?)
It totals about $3000 bucks a month before we get to do stuff like buy food.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by sonhouseI do $250 for fire-wood a year too. 😀
Wow, it's a good thing you don't have bad winters. We pay less than half of that here. And I still pay 250 bucks a month for electrons. And another 300 for gas. That is the 'budget' plan, every month all year round. 550 bucks a month just for those two bills. Then water gigs me another 180 bucks a month. Nice, huh? Telephone, internet, TV another 200 a mont ...[text shortened]... r car insurance.
It totals about $3000 bucks a month before we get to do stuff like buy food.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by sonhouseThat is because the U.S. dollar is being inflated by the Obama administration and the Democrats to pay for Obama Care and other nonsense, like so-called green energy. Eventually, the government is going to have to let the energy companies charge more money so we can even have energy. Obama seems to be on a mission to destroy America's place in the world as a super power by continuing to bow to the wishes of the muslim kings.
Wow, it's a good thing you don't have bad winters. We pay less than half of that here. And I still pay 250 bucks a month for electrons. And another 300 for gas. That is the 'budget' plan, every month all year round. 550 bucks a month just for those two bills. Then water gigs me another 180 bucks a month. Nice, huh? Telephone, internet, TV another 200 a mont ...[text shortened]... r car insurance.
It totals about $3000 bucks a month before we get to do stuff like buy food.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by RJHindsSo Obama is deliberately keeping energy prices low so that energy companies can charge more money!
That is because the U.S. dollar is being inflated by the Obama administration and the Democrats to pay for Obama Care and other nonsense, like so-called green energy. Eventually, the government is going to have to let the energy companies charge more money so we can even have energy. Obama seems to be on a mission to destroy America's place in the world as a super power by continuing to bow to the wishes of the muslim kings.
Brilliant.
Only RJH saw through the subterfuge.