Originally posted by robbie carrobiemghrn is still complaining and running off pages of numbers again? That will cure my insomnia. Robbie am I wrong in saying the thread is "site Ideas" on how to improve going forward? Why is there still a need for Kleenex tissues with all this complaining about last year when Your clan won the title?, And under last year, The Easy Riders are listed as the winners.
Russ has explained it, he is not here to pander to your personal preferences or inability to grasp reality.
Shouldn't people be trying to implement idea's going forward which seems to be the most productive way of fixing things?
Easy Riders Champions of 2016 π
Originally posted by VESPINIf robbie does as I have asked him will you go and join him
mghrn is still complaining and running off pages of numbers again? That will cure my insomnia. Robbie am I wrong in saying the thread is "site Ideas" on how to improve going forward? Why is there still a need for Kleenex tissues with all this complaining about last year when Your clan won the title?, And under last year, The Easy Riders are listed as the w ...[text shortened]... which seems to be the most productive way of fixing things?
Easy Riders Champions of 2016 π
Originally posted by VESPINYour clan handed robbie the fake title last year and your previous clan got suspended the year before
mghrn is still complaining and running off pages of numbers again? That will cure my insomnia. Robbie am I wrong in saying the thread is "site Ideas" on how to improve going forward? Why is there still a need for Kleenex tissues with all this complaining about last year when Your clan won the title?, And under last year, The Easy Riders are listed as the w ...[text shortened]... which seems to be the most productive way of fixing things?
Easy Riders Champions of 2016 π
Seriously what are you actually doing on here ?
Originally posted by VESPINI asked Russ a valid question about some of the statistics.
mghrn is still complaining and running off pages of numbers again? That will cure my insomnia. Robbie am I wrong in saying the thread is "site Ideas" on how to improve going forward? Why is there still a need for Kleenex tissues with all this complaining about last year when Your clan won the title?, And under last year, The Easy Riders are listed as the w ...[text shortened]... which seems to be the most productive way of fixing things?
Easy Riders Champions of 2016 π
You just didn't understand it.
I guess they didn't teach you arithmetic at Jurassic Park. π
Originally posted by VESPINIndeed but the forces of gloom have their own twisted narrative. The fact of the matter is that the system is changing and if the Easy Riders success as the most prolific clan in history had anything to do with that then we should feel vindicated. We did the entire system a huge favour and all we get in return is grief. Posterity will look upon as great freedom fighters, revolutionaries that changed the world and you my friend were our inspiration.
mghrn is still complaining and running off pages of numbers again? That will cure my insomnia. Robbie am I wrong in saying the thread is "site Ideas" on how to improve going forward? Why is there still a need for Kleenex tissues with all this complaining about last year when Your clan won the title?, And under last year, The Easy Riders are listed as the w ...[text shortened]... which seems to be the most productive way of fixing things?
Easy Riders Champions of 2016 π
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt doesn't matter how Russ decides to move forward with his improvements.
Bilge water, you have no explanation except some harebrained fantasy, you live in Disney land Mahgoobs, you and your entire clan and flunkies.
Some numbers just stand out for all to see.
The numbers are etched in stone.
You have completed 50 challenges with the 3 collusion clans.
And have lost only one of those challenges.
How Russ decides to massage those statistics won't change that.
Folks
I don't believe we've lost the right to vote
I do believe we're making a mess of this thread
Let's keep the posts related to the pros and cons of the experimental Clan ELO rating
With some modifications to address our concerns, it may prove to be playable, or maybe it just doesn't work
After a fair trial period we can use this thread to vote on the Clan ELO Rating System
I'm starting a new thread ... Sandbagging and Collusion
They are problems we need to address
There has been quite a lot of discussion on these issues
I believe it would help Russ if we reduce that to a few simple items, that a vote can decide
Thanks,
~leo
Originally posted by GiannottiI just don't see the clan rating working properly.
Russ, thanks for the sort by clan rating
It'll be interesting to see how this works out in play
If the goal was to shake things up a bit, then mission accomplished !!
But then there will be a lot of questions on the new system.
And a lot of us will be raising them. Myself included.
There will be those that have had their own motives. And they have already stepped forward.
In my pre-retirement life, I was heavily involved in project work in IT Business Analysis.
We didn't just spend large sums of money to implement something just to "see what happens".
It is probably too late, but I will submit a new proposal for a scoring system improvement.
A lot of the ideas are a follow up of some good ideas put forth by you and moonbus.
Hopefully today as I now have some free time.
Then let the howling begin !! π
Originally posted by GiannottiRuss, can we please see the formula and the data you used to calculate the clan ratings? If we knew how you got the numbers, it would answer some of the questions here, what the proposed clan rating is actually measuring.
Let's keep the posts related to the pros and cons of the experimental Clan ELO rating
~leo
Originally posted by moonbusIts measuring the Easy Rider awesomeness! π
Russ, can we please see the formula and the data you used to calculate the clan ratings? If we knew how you got the numbers, it would answer some of the questions here, what the proposed clan rating is actually measuring.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI will keep repeating this until someone can show me any errors in my reasoning
I agree, I hope it will lead to a much more competitive system and less discriminatory to smaller clans.
I hope everyone comes to their senses and realises what adopting ELO will mean for the future of the clan challenge
Far from curing the ails of the clan challenge it will make it worse
It will result in the top clans fearing being challenged from those below ( because a loss will mean a plunge into the depths )
It will promote sandbagging to gain an advantage over other clans
The only way it could work is if everybody was honest
Small chance of that from what I have seen so far
ELO may work for individuals but not for clans
It was not meant for clans and should therefore be thrown out