07/07/07 & A Glimpse at Heaven

Originally posted by rwingett
They're both striving for a world of peace and justice where there is no poverty or suffering. But one thinks you can sit back and pray for god to deliver it into your lap in some distant future, while the other recognizes that we have to build it ourselves in the here and now.

Well, man has been striving for what his idea of peace is for the last 6000 years of recorded history, and it isn't getting any better.

We don't need to pray for God to do what he said he will do. We're just waiting for him to return and set things right.

But let's not argue about this. We both know what the other is going to say anyway. 😉

Originally posted by Nemesio
Originally posted by josephw
[b]The human race. Actually the whole of creation. But since God's grace is being extended to sinners, I guess that means mankind.

Why would Jesus warn the people listening to Him about a sin that cannot be committed?[/b]

In the dispensation, (oikonomia - administration (of a household or estate); specifically a (religious) "economy". Stewardship) that Jesus made that statement, one could commit such a sin.

"But now", in this "dispensation of the grace of God", one cannot out-sin grace. In other words, the mechanism necessary to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is not within our power.

I may not have worded that last sentence correctly. And all this probably sounds unbelievable. But I hope you catch the drift of what I mean.

I first started this line of reasoning in response to your original post. I may be reaching here, but if you think you have committed such a sin, then forget it. God's grace is sufficient to cover any sin man can think of.
But one day this "dispensation" will close, and God will resume the prophetic program.

Originally posted by josephw
Well, man has been striving for what his idea of peace is for the last 6000 years of recorded history, and it isn't getting any better.

We don't need to pray for God to do what he said he will do. We're just waiting for him to return and set things right.

But let's not argue about this. We both know what the other is going to say anyway. 😉

I'm not sure you do. Even though I concede that Jesus probably never said 'imagine there's no heaven', I think his original message was more in line with Lennon's lyrics than with what the first poster's lyrics. His followers themselves were meant to build the 'kingdom of god' in the here and now. You've convinced yourself that Paul's teachings are synonymous with Jesus', but I don't think they are.

Originally posted by rwingett
I'm not sure you do. Even though I concede that Jesus probably never said 'imagine there's no heaven', I think his original message was more in line with Lennon's lyrics than with what the first poster's lyrics. His followers themselves were meant to build the 'kingdom of god' in the here and now. You've convinced yourself that Paul's teachings are synonymous with Jesus', but I don't think they are.

"You've convinced yourself that Paul's teachings are synonymous with Jesus', but I don't think they are."

I want to be accurate as to what I am going to say here in response to this statement, so as to not start an argument.

The apostle Paul received by revelation, that body of doctrine contained in his epistles, from the glorified Lord Jesus Christ. Forgive the language. It sounds religious. I'm not religious. I'm just taking it out of the book.
So, essentially they are synonymous. Don't you think?

Originally posted by josephw
We're just waiting for him to return and set things right.

i turn my back for 6000 years and look what you did. well im back now.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i turn my back for 6000 years and look what you did. well im back now.

Please help us.

Originally posted by josephw
Please help us.

what would you do without me? 😵

Originally posted by johnchp3
Today is 07/07/07 and my birthday is also today and I'm 77.
As we know 7 is considered to be a lucky number. God also uses 7 numerous
time in the Bible. To commemorate this date which only happens
once each century is a poem about Heaven as follows:

A Glimpse At Heaven

Be dismayed not--a better world is approaching.
After Armageddon--perf ...[text shortened]...
sincerely trusting only in Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior and repent of one’s sins.

right on brother

Originally posted by johnchp3
Today is 07/07/07 and my birthday is also today and I'm 77.
As we know 7 is considered to be a lucky number. God also uses 7 numerous
time in the Bible. To commemorate this date which only happens
once each century is a poem about Heaven as follows:

To commemorate this date, you figured the best thing to do was to post to a discussion board on a chess site?

Go....cross-stitch it or something.

Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
To commemorate this date, you figured the best thing to do was to post to a discussion board on a chess site?

Go....cross-stitch it or something.

You never know, that old man might be able to cross-stitch you. 😉

Originally posted by josephw
You never know, that old man might be able to cross-stitch you. 😉

Lol! Yeah, I know an old guy in his 80's who is one of the most computer savvy, intelligent people I work with! He worked in the NASA Research Development Center since 1955, and knows more than I do about computers and airplanes.

Originally posted by SharpeMother
Lol! Yeah, I know an old guy in his 80's who is one of the most computer savvy, intelligent people I work with! He worked in the NASA Research Development Center since 1955, and knows more than I do about computers and airplanes.

It looks like we're the only ones posting out here tonight!

Originally posted by josephw
It looks like we're the only ones posting out here tonight!

Yeah, it's slow this weekend.

Originally posted by josephw
In the dispensation, (oikonomia - administration (of a household or estate); specifically a (religious) "economy". Stewardship) that Jesus made that statement, one could commit such a sin.

"But now", in this "dispensation of the grace of God", one cannot out-sin grace. In other words, the mechanism necessary to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is not within our ...[text shortened]...
But one day this "dispensation" will close, and God will resume the prophetic program.

So, to be clear, you think that Jesus warned His Disciples about a sin during his one/three-year
ministry only to have such a serious warning erased by 'the blood of the Lamb?' That is, the sin
only existed for no more than three years?

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
So, to be clear, you think that Jesus warned His Disciples about a sin during his one/three-year
ministry only to have such a serious warning erased by 'the blood of the Lamb?' That is, the sin
only existed for no more than three years?

Nemesio

We're up late tonight!
To answer your question, not exactly.
Two things. Until Jesus spoke of such a sin, was it possible to commit it?
And, as I said, when this dispensation ends, then it will be possible to blaspheme the Holy Spirit again.
Is this clear? Is it interesting as a possibility to you?