@hooday (aka whodey)

Originally posted by FMF
"Not a word about it"? You are lying, whodey. Yet again.

The truth hurts, doesn't it.

Originally posted by whodey
The truth hurts, doesn't it.

But it's not "the truth", whodey. That's the whole point. It is a calculated lie. Obviously so. And such deliberate falsehoods underpin or are interwoven with almost everything you say.

To claim - in terms of gun violence among Black Americans in Chicago - that there is "not a word about it" in the public discourse and political and media domain in the U.S. is an out and out, blatant, intentional lie.

Telling lies, spreading falsehoods, misrepresenting others' views or what they have said, is apparently the most overt political act that you engage in, at least as far as your behaviour in this community is concerned.

And it's just one illustration of what I have been confronting you about on these last few pages.

Like I said, you are as much part and parcel of America's repulsively divisive, dissembling public discourse as any other American posting on this web site, if not - perhaps - its leading proponent.

Originally posted by whodey
Thousands of Black have killed themselves in the streets of Chicago and not a word about it.

It's on every TV channel. It's in every national newspaper. It's on the radio. It's in the news. It's on talk radio. It's discussed feverishly by pundits, commentators, columnists, in social media, on political and news web sites, on blogs. Even half the world away, in Indonesia, one can witness this. Millions of words, literally, have been generated about the issue. And you claim there's "not a word about it" and slap an "it's the truth" label on the ridiculous thing you've just said?

Originally posted by FMF
But it's not "the truth", whodey. That's the whole point. It is a calculated lie. Obviously so. And such deliberate falsehoods underpin or are interwoven with almost everything you say.

To claim - in terms of gun violence among Black Americans in Chicago - that there is "not a word about it" in the public discourse and political and media domain in the U.S. ...[text shortened]... course as any other American posting on this web site, if not - perhaps - its leading proponent.

Right wing sites talk about it, but the state run press does not.

If a black man pulls out a gun and shoots down a group of other blacks, it will make the local news and right winged news sites breifly. There is no Presidential press conference to talk about gun control because of it. However, if the same thing happens somewhere else then all hell breaks loose in the press. All of a sudden if "whitey" gets gunned down in an area that is no common place in a city that is no dominated by Dims, then it makes national news everywhere and something needs to be done about it.

The same thing can be said about such historical events as the Armenian genocide in Turkey. Sure, there are those who talk about it, but not in comparison to say the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. There are no war reparations paid to the victims like in Germany. I would even wager that the average person never heard about the Armenian genocide, but probably have heard about the Holocaust in Germany.

The simple fact is, this truth is inconvenient. Turkey is a political entity that does not want the bad press, nor do they wish to pay for the sins of the past. Internationally, there is upside to harming relations with the said country, so it is ignored.

Originally posted by whodey
Right wing sites talk about it, but the state run press does not.

If a black man pulls out a gun and shoots down a group of other blacks, it will make the local news and right winged news sites breifly. There is no Presidential press conference to talk about gun control because of it. However, if the same thing happens somewhere else then all hell breaks ...[text shortened]... minated by Dims, then it makes national news everywhere and something needs to be done about it.

Do you see yourself as offering or modelling some sort of better, non-hypocritical, more decent and more honest approach as an alternative to the indecency and dishonesty and hypocrisy you perceive to be rife in the public domain and which you condemn?

Originally posted by whodey
The same thing can be said about such historical events as the Armenian genocide in Turkey. Sure, there are those who talk about it, but not in comparison to say the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. There are no war reparations paid to the victims like in Germany. I would even wager that the average person never heard about the Armenian genocide, but probably have heard about the Holocaust in Germany.

Tell us more about the how Hilary Clinton was apparently going to force Americans to eat foetuses if she had won the election. And with all your knowledge about the Holocaust in Nazi Germany, tell us more about why you claim John McCain is a National Socialist/Nazi because you disagree with his policies.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you see yourself as offering or modelling some sort of better, non-hypocritical, more decent and more honest approach as an alternative to the indecency and dishonesty and hypocrisy you perceive to be rife in the public domain and which you condemn?

No. I don't have that kind of money

Originally posted by FMF
Tell us more about the how Hilary Clinton was apparently going to force Americans to eat foetuses if she had won the election. And with all your knowledge about the Holocaust in Nazi Germany, tell us more about why you claim John McCain is a National Socialist/Nazi because you disagree with his policies.

When Dims passed the ACA there was a big controversy over the ACA funding abortions. Some Dims wanted abortion funding taken out of the legislation or they were not going to vote for it, so it was taken out.

Now that it had passed, Hillary simply was going to put it into the legislation, something that was predictable. Any Dim would have done the same, it was the plan all along.

Even though she failed, another empty suit or dress will do it for her in the future.

Originally posted by whodey
Now that it had passed, Hillary simply was going to put it into the legislation, something that was predictable. Any Dim would have done the same, it was the plan all along.

So how was it do you think Hilary Clinton was going to force Americans to eat foetuses?

Originally posted by FMF
So how was it do you think Hilary Clinton was going to force Americans to eat foetuses?

That's right, ignore everything I said.

Thanks for that.

Originally posted by whodey
That's right, ignore everything I said.

Thanks for that.

I'm not interested in your opinions on retail U.S. politics, whodey. I am confronting you about your relentlessly vile and poisonous - and too often deceptive - rhetoric heaped down upon everything and everyone you oppose. Have you really not been able to glean that from this conversation?

Originally posted by whodey
That's right, ignore everything I said.

Thanks for that.

With what you know about the Nazis and the Holocaust, tell us why you claim John McCain - a politician whose policies you oppose - is a National Socialist/Nazi.

Originally posted by FMF
I'm not interested in your opinions on retail U.S. politics, whodey. I am confronting you about your relentlessly vile and poisonous - and too often deceptive - rhetoric heaped down upon everything and everyone you oppose. Have you really not been able to glean that from this conversation?

Your not interested in my views at all.

Your only apparent interest is to demonize me as usual.

Originally posted by whodey
Your not interested in my views at all.

Your only apparent interest is to demonize me as usual.

You are welcome to have whatever political views you want, whodey.

I'm confronting you for how you have been a Trumpist type presence on this web site for years in so far as how you have aligned yourself with the same kind of facetious, dishonest, misanthropic demagoguery day in day out.

Like I said before, you are part and parcel of the sheer mean-spirited ugliness and hate-blog-ethos that is at the forefront in America - Trumpism being the latest manifestation of it - and you like to replicate here on this web site.

Hiding behind the claim that you didn't vote for Trump just won't wash.

Originally posted by FMF
You are welcome to have whatever political views you want, whodey.

I'm confronting you for how you have been a Trumpist type presence on this web site for years in so far as how you have aligned yourself with the same kind of facetious, dishonest, misanthropic demagoguery day in day out.

Like I said before, you are part and parcel of the sheer mean-spiri ...[text shortened]... re on this web site.

Hiding behind the claim that you didn't vote for Trump just won't wash.

Do trolls always try to get the last word in debates?

I'm thinking, yes they do.