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It can be traumatic to realize that what one thought most certain, isn’t. It’s a slippery slope, you know. If the snake is metaphoric and did not really talk, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a metaphor, then the Garden is a metaphor, too. And then Adam is a metaphor for man in the state of nature (pre-civilization), not one specific individual. Well, you can see where that leads …

“The hardness of the logical must” as Wittgenstein would say.

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@moonbus said
It can be traumatic to realize that what one thought most certain, isn’t. It’s a slippery slope, you know.
My loss of faith was a gradual slippery slope although I didn't find it traumatic.

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Do you know Jung’s “Memories, Dreams, Reflections”? Where he recounts his own apostasy, or reality check, depending on how one looks at it.

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Do you know Jung’s “Memories, Dreams, Reflections”? Where he recounts his own apostasy, or reality check, depending on how one looks at it.
Another I must, I must, I must, perhaps.

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Yeah, I know. I too have a shelf 2 meters wide with things to read before I kick the bucket. If I get hit by a bus and paralysed from the waist down, I'll start in and read them all cover to cover (starting with Anais Nin, "A Spy In The House Of Love"😉 ); until then, I'm hiking, sailing, and cycling, while I still can.

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@moonbus said
@FMF

It can be traumatic to realize that what one thought most certain, isn’t. It’s a slippery slope, you know. If the snake is metaphoric and did not really talk, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a metaphor, then the Garden is a metaphor, too. And then Adam is a metaphor for man in the state of nature (pre-civilization), not one specific individual. Well, you can see where that leads …

“The hardness of the logical must” as Wittgenstein would say.
Exactly!

But I’m still a Christian and yet I’m comfortable navigating the “slippery slope”

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@moonbus said
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Yeah, I know. I too have a shelf 2 meters wide with things to read before I kick the bucket. If I get hit by a bus and paralysed from the waist down, I'll start in and read them all cover to cover (starting with Anais Nin, "A Spy In The House Of Love"😉 ); until then, I'm hiking, sailing, and cycling, while I still can.
Speaks to me at this time.
I’m not a big reader and not a big hiker, but I appreciate the ideal.

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Exactly!

But I’m still a Christian and yet I’m comfortable navigating the “slippery slope”
Some learn to ski. Some never dare to try.

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Some learn to ski. Some never dare to try.
I’d love to have a go; it’s on my shortlist.

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This thread doesn't deserve acknowledgement. Nice try. Fail.

I think divegeester must be miffed because I didn't post in his "why is Christianity in the US dying" thread.

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This thread doesn't deserve acknowledgement. Nice try. Fail.

I think divegeester must be miffed because I didn't post in his "why is Christianity in the US dying" thread.
Talk to the snake, the metaphor isn’t listening.

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@divegeester said
Talk to the snake, the metaphor isn’t listening.
I noticed you have a habit of blurting snarkily when you have nothing substantive to say. I'd say that characterizes 99.9% of everything you say.

But you are 100% entertaining I'll give you that. 🤣

Even my wife laughed at your remark.

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@josephw said
I noticed you have a habit of blurting snarkily when you have nothing substantive to say. I'd say that characterizes 99.9% of everything you say.

But you are 100% entertaining I'll give you that. 🤣

Even my wife laughed at your remark.
Are you going to have the courage to back to the threads where you have been called out for admitting the snake is a metaphor?

I think not.

PS what does your wife think of your intellectual cowardice?

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@divegeester said
Are you going to have the courage to back to the threads where you have been called out for admitting the snake is a metaphor?

I think not.

PS what does your wife think of your intellectual cowardice?
One doesn't question one about his wife. Are you a cad?

Your "coward" inference is weak and cowardly of you to make. I said that the term "serpent" can be a metaphor for a very real being called Satan. It's the term God uses to refer to Satan. If you have a problem with what I said about the use of the term "serpent" that God uses to refer to Satan, then I suggest you take the matter up with God.

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@josephw said
One doesn't question one about his wife. Are you a cad?

Your "coward" inference is weak and cowardly of you to make. I said that the term "serpent" can be a metaphor for a very real being called Satan. It's the term God uses to refer to Satan. If you have a problem with what I said about the use of the term "serpent" that God uses to refer to Satan, then I suggest you take the matter up with God.
Are you going to have the courage to back to the threads where you have been called out for admitting the snake is a metaphor?

I think not, spiritual muscle man 🙂

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