@RJHinds

Originally posted by galveston75
Actually your wrong. I'm only going to post a few links here as I doubt you'll read them and if you do you'll disagree as they will make no sense to you because you think Hallelujah applys to Jesus, not Jehovah. I can only imagine how frustrating solid evidence like this is to trinitarians against the trinity.
But then you choose to believe it.


ht ...[text shortened]... //dictionary.reference.com/browse/hallelujah

http://www.pristinegrace.org/media.php?id=101

A Multitude from the Tribulation

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
“Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying,

“Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen.”

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” 14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16 They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”

from www.biblegateway.com NASB version

Looking at this I see two things the power and authority of the Lamb and He is said to be where? At the Center of the throne and the fluidity of the way it is written shows and proves that the Lamb is to be worshiped. Also the great multitude is
where? They are before the throne of God not on earth. However heaven is where ever the throne of God is. So earth or Heaven irrelevant!!

Manny

“Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”


God almighty sharing worship with the Lamb? What is this? Looks like equality to me.


Manny

Angels Exalt the Lamb

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice,
“Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing.”

13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying,

“To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”

14 And the four living creatures kept saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped.

Just more proof that well it is ok to worship the Lamb.

Manny

I think the key is read the scriptures they speak for themselves 🙂




Manny

Revelation 1-8 and 17

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”



Then in verse 17 we see the one who appears as the "Son of Man" saying He is the
first and the last (Alpha and Omega)

17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, 18 and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.

I either see a very confusing bible or I see the Majesty of the Lamb!! Proof that the Lamb is God the son 🙂 really when you stop fighting it you will marvel at what God did for man.

Manny

Originally posted by menace71
“Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”


God almighty sharing worship with the Lamb? What is this? Looks like equality to me.


Manny

Originally posted by RJHinds
I am doing my best to present the truth of God's word. But I am only human,
so can't you give me some slack, so I can do it in my own way?

Originally posted by josephw
Remember RJ, the better you present the truth the greater the slam you're gonna get. 😉

Originally posted by galveston75
If it truly were truth he was explaining he would not be "slamed". When one either honestly does not know or understand the truth of a subject, that is excusable. But when one presents his opinion in such a way that all others are wrong, they are idiots and have their head up their a_ _ then that changes the view of that person and that will not gain any ...[text shortened]... ristian should act towards others and the love and respect that should always be shown to all.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Why do you demand respect, but refuse to give it? The truth is still
the truth regardless of the way it is presented. Even if I were to
present it in a gentle manner, you would not respect me because
you think the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones with the truth.
So get off your high horse and get your head out.

Originally posted by galveston75
It only looks that way because you want it too.
Is this not speaking of (((((( 2 )))))) beings? God and the lamb? Where is the 3rd being of this trinity the holy spirit at here? It seems no one is questioning this fact of it not being spoken of and all the other verses that pertain to this part of Revelation.
If it is equally god and the same as the ...[text shortened]... y've accomplished?

I will comment on your other post later this morning. Going back to bed.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Here you are trying to distract from the point of his post. This post has
nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. It is pointing to the fact that Jesus
should be worshipped and is equal to God. Not only that, but He is the
center of attention of the worship. The Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to
acknowledge this and will not worship Him and therefore do not honor
the Father.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Why do you demand respect, but refuse to give it? The truth is still
the truth regardless of the way it is presented. Even if I were to
present it in a gentle manner, you would not respect me because
you think the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones with the truth.
So get off your high horse and get your head out.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
(Colossians 4:6) . . .Let your utterance be always with graciousness, seasoned with salt, so as to know how you ought to give an answer to each one.