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Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “you are gods”’? If he
called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot
be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the
world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?
(Psalm 82:1) . . .God is stationing himself in the assembly of the Divine One; In the
middle of the gods he judges:
(Psalm 82:6) . . .“I myself have said, ‘you are gods, And all of you are sons of the
Most High.
(1 Corinthians 8:5-6) . . .For even though there are those who are called
“gods,”whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and
many“lords,” there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are
and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things
are,and we through him.
who are these gods that Jesus speaks of and why are they termed gods.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHe was referring to the men that were set up to be the judges of
Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “you are gods”’? If he
called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot
be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the
world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?
(Psalm 82:1) . . .God is stationing h ...[text shortened]... we through him.
[b]who are these gods that Jesus speaks of and why are they termed gods.[/b]
the people. They passed judgement on the people based on the
laws of Moses. Their decision was to them like gods passing
judgment on them. The Pharisee were the lawyers and judges
of the people in the time of Jesus. Their decision was like gods
passing judgment on the people. Their decision was what brought
Jesus up for the punishment of death. They were gods.
Today it is like Judge Judy being the god in her court room. Her
verdict is the ruling of the law. Maybe the jugdes of the Supreme
Court of the U.S. is a better example or whatever judges you have
in your country. They have the authority as God's to decide if you
live or die. Do you now understand who these god's are? I guess
you still do not understand.
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Originally posted by RJHindsoh i knew it, i just wanted you to say it, so there are other 'gods', then in the Biblical
He was referring to the men that were set up to be the judges of
the people. They passed judgement on the people based on the
laws of Moses. Their decision was to them like gods passing
judgment on them. The Pharisee were the lawyers and judges
of the people in the time of Jesus. Their decision was like gods
passing judgment on the people. Their de ive or die. Do you now understand who these god's are? I guess
you still do not understand.
cannon, other than Jehovah. Have you any idea what the Hebrew term is and its
Greek equivalent, if you had it might give you a better understanding of why the term
is used.
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Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not so sure. When the serpent tempted Adam and Eve he told them that they would be as gods. I think essentially what this means is that you appoint someone as Lord in your life. This can be you or someone or something else. For Adam and Eve, they became gods unto themselves as they rejected the Lordship of their Creator.
He was referring to the men that were set up to be the judges of
the people. They passed judgement on the people based on the
laws of Moses. Their decision was to them like gods passing
judgment on them. The Pharisee were the lawyers and judges
of the people in the time of Jesus. Their decision was like gods
passing judgment on the people. Their de ...[text shortened]... ive or die. Do you now understand who these god's are? I guess
you still do not understand.
As for Robbie, no doubt this is a stab at the validity of the Trinity. However, for the life of me I can't figure out how you can say that Jesus created us, on the one hand, and also say he is not our God, on the other hand. It makes no sense. 😕
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Originally posted by whodeyno the serpent stated that would be like gods, knowing good and bad. No its not a stab
I'm not so sure. When the serpent tempted Adam and Eve he told them that they would be as gods. I think essentially what this means is that you appoint someone as Lord in your life. This can be you or someone or something else. For Adam and Eve, they became gods unto themselves as they rejected the Lordship of their Creator.
As for Robbie, no doubt thi s, on the one hand, and also say he is not our God, on the other hand. It makes no sense. 😕
at anything, RJH and Jaywill have the audacity to call into question the translation of
certain texts stating that Jesus is 'a god', or 'a mighty god', claiming that in doing so
we are polytheistic, when here we have a biblical instance of God himself using it for
mere human judges!! How embarrassing for them.
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Originally posted by whodeyOf course, I was speaking mainly to what Jesus was saying to the Pharisees.
I'm not so sure. When the serpent tempted Adam and Eve he told them that they would be as gods. I think essentially what this means is that you appoint someone as Lord in your life. This can be you or someone or something else. For Adam and Eve, they became gods unto themselves as they rejected the Lordship of their Creator.
As for Robbie, no doubt thi s, on the one hand, and also say he is not our God, on the other hand. It makes no sense. 😕
Adam and Eve wanted to be their own judge as Satan said they could. Many
people today would like to be their on god or judge but they must submit to
another with more power or authority than they. Maybe, Satan really has
become their god. This was merely a distraction away from the main topic.
That was is Christ also the mighty God, the only true God, who is also
called the Almighty God? Do we have two true Gods, one a mighty God and
the other an Almighty God? Or do we have only one God, who is called both
Mighty and Almighty God? Jaywill and I say their is only one true God.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieBe as gods or be like gods. What is the diff?
no the serpent stated that would be like gods, knowing good and bad.
Also, if an entity creates me, how is it not my God?
And lastly, Jesus said that he and the Father were one. Being a triune being myself, I have no problem understanding it because I am made in the image of the Almighty.
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Originally posted by RJHindsand yet here we have god himself terming mere humans as gods, how embarrassing for your silly assertions that we have more than one God.
Of course, I was speaking mainly to what Jesus was saying to the Pharisees.
Adam and Eve wanted to be their own judge as Satan said they could. many
people today would like tobe their on god or judge but they must submit to
another with more power or authority than they. Maybe, Satan really has
become their god. This was merely a distraction away from ...[text shortened]... other an Almighty God? Or do we have only one God, who is called both
Mighty and Almighty God?
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Originally posted by whodeyhe also stated that he and the disciples are one, does that mean that they are also part
Be as gods or be like gods. What is the diff?
Also, if an entity creates me, how is it not my God?
And lastly, Jesus said that he and the Father were one. Being a triune being myself, I have no problem understanding it because I am made in the image of the Almighty.
of the trinity??? so whodey if you want to start another fruitless trinity thread do so, the
bible also states that Christ gave no consideration to the idea that he was equal to
God, it also states that the head of Christ is God, it also states that he subjects himself
after going to heaven, it also states that he is part of creation, the first-born of all
creation and i could go on and on and on.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo matter how simple I try to state it you have no ability to understand
and yet here we have god himself terming mere humans as gods, how embarrassing for your silly assertions that we have more than one God.
spiritual things if you can not even understand natural things. You are
like Nicodemus.
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Originally posted by RJHindsyeah yeah, whatever, just look up the Greek and Hebrew terms and shut up in the
No matter how simple I try to state it you have no ability to understand
spiritual things if you can not even understand natural things. You are
like Nicodemus.
meantime, your embarrassing yourself.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, we know, we have heard it all before and have made efforts to explain
he also stated that he and the disciples are one, does that mean that they are also part
of the trinity??? so whodey if you want to start another fruitless trinity thread do so, the
bible also states that Christ gave no consideration to the idea that he was equal to
God, it also states that the head of Christ is God, it also states that he subj ...[text shortened]... s that he is part of creation, the first-born of all
creation and i could go on and on and on.
that the Watchtower teachings are in error. So since you refuse to pay
attention and can not understand, there is no point in either of us repeating
ourselves over and over.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiePersonally, I blame the atrophy!! 😠
no the serpent stated that would be like gods, knowing good and bad. No its not a stab
at anything, RJH and Jaywill have the audacity to call into question the translation of
certain texts stating that Jesus is 'a god', or 'a mighty god', claiming that in doing so
we are polytheistic, when here we have a biblical instance of God himself using it for
mere human judges!! How embarrassing for them.
I'm shrinking, I'm shrinking, what a world, what a world......
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Originally posted by RJHindswell thank goodness for that and just for the record, these are biblical verses, not
Yes, we know, we have heard it all before and have made efforts to explain
that the Watchtower teachings are in error. So since you refuse to pay
attention and can not understand, there is no point in either of us repeating
ourselves over and over.
watchtower passages. what an embarrassment you are RJH.