@RJHinds

Originally posted by mikelom
Please use 'than' when you mean to, and not 'then', as it's so God damned confusing!! 🙁

-m.

Figure it out. I'm not the only one here that makes typos....

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
already answered, you did not accept it then, i see no reason why you will accept it
now. So lets get this, the passage does not state that Jesus is Almighty God, then why
are you trying to portray something that is not explicit in the text. Why dont you have
a go, Jaywill could not bring himself to answer it honestly, neither could RJH, lets ...[text shortened]... keepers'.

Again, why are you trying to portray something that is not explicit in the text.

Isa 9:6 how come the child is called Eternal father? if the child had a beginning then how can the child rightly be called eternal anything?

That's all I'm asking. the context is about the child being called eternal that is all


Manny

Originally posted by galveston75
So God is a body a soul and a spirit? Hummm flesh cannot inherit heaven.

1 Cor 15:50 "What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever."

So exactly what is his body made of?

The Holy Bible does not say, "flesh" can not inherit heaven. It says
"flesh and blood" - that is both together. Look it up, doofus.

Christ's body is made of flesh and bone. He gave his blood as a
ransom to free us from the bondage of sin and death. Look it up.
😏

Originally posted by galveston75
So God is a body a soul and a spirit? Hummm flesh cannot inherit heaven.

1 Cor 15:50 "What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever."

So exactly what is his body made of?

Haven't you read that our bodies will be changed from corruptible to
incorruptible. Look it up. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
Haven't you read that our bodies will be changed from corruptible to
incorruptible. Look it up. 😏

Yes and that is not speaking of a fleshly body going to heaven. First it could not survive the vacuum of space which should be obvious. The Bible CLEARLY says which for some reason you keep ignoring, that blood and flesh CANNOT inherit heaven.
The human body is always corruptable either in physical ways or in mental ways so this change is not from one physical body to another. The Bible speaks of ones in heaven as only being in spirit form, never human.
And no where in the Bible does it say that human flesh will ever be granted immortality with no chance of death. Only ones who have been and will be resurrected to heaven to rule as Kings and Priest with Jesus are granted immortality. Not even the angels are immortal.

Originally posted by galveston75
Yes and that is not speaking of a fleshly body going to heaven. First it could not survive the vacuum of space which should be obvious. The Bible CLEARLY says which for some reason you keep ignoring, that blood and flesh CANNOT inherit heaven.
The human body is always corruptable either in physical ways or in mental ways so this change is not from one ...[text shortened]... o rule as Kings and Priest with Jesus are granted immortality. Not even the angels are immortal.

You are mistaken. Read your Bible again. 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are mistaken. Read your Bible again. 😏

OMG....You have no clue do you. Show me one scripture that says flesh and blood can survive in heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by galveston75
OMG....You have no clue do you. Show me one scripture that says flesh and blood can survive in heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is proof that Jesus was raised in a physical body of flesh and bone
and then acended to Heaven in this physical body of flesh and bone
that had been made incorruptible and immortal at His resurrection.
He will return in the same way according to the Angels.

The following ocurred after the resurrection.
From you Bible, The New World Translation:

While they were speaking of these things he himself stood in their midst
and said to them: “May YOU have peace.” But because they were terrified,
and had become frightened, they were imagining they beheld a spirit. So
he said to them: “Why are YOU troubled, and why is it doubts come up in
YOUR hearts? See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and
see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold
that I have.” And as he said this he showed them his hands and his feet.
But while they were still not believing for sheer joy and were wondering,
he said to them: “Do YOU have something there to eat?” And they handed
him a piece of broiled fish; and he took it and ate it before their eyes.

(Luke 24:36-43 NWT)

In the above verses Jesus identifies His resurrected body as flesh and
bone and goes on to prove it is a physical body by eating fish. Then
in the following verse Jesus proves to Thomas that His body is truly
a physical body by allowing Thomas to touch Him.

But Thomas, one of the twelve, who was called The Twin, was not with
them when Jesus came. Consequently the other disciples would say to him:
“We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands
the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails
and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe.”

Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas
with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in
their midst and said: “May YOU have peace.” Next he said to Thomas:
“Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick
it into my side, and stop being unbelieving but become believing.” In
answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!”

(John 20:24-28 NWT)

But Jesus now has an incorruptible body of flesh and bone.

And there are heavenly bodies, and earthly bodies; but the glory of
the heavenly bodies is one sort, and that of the earthly bodies is a
different sort.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption,
it is raised up in incorruption.

(1 Corintians 15:40,42 NWT)

Wasn't Jesus dead and wasn't He resurrected in a incorruptible body
of flesh and bone in which He was transported to heaven?

When, now, they had assembled, they went asking him: “Lord, are you
restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” He said to them:
“It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons
which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; but YOU will
receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will
be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a
and to the most distant part of the earth.” And after he had said
these things, while they were looking on, he was lifted up and a cloud
caught him up from their vision. And as they were gazing into the sky
while he was on his way, also, look! two men in white garments stood
alongside them, and they said: “Men of Gal´i·lee, why do YOU stand
looking into the sky? This Jesus who was received up from YOU into
the sky will come thus in the same manner as YOU have beheld him going
into the sky.”

(Acts 1:6-11 NWT)

Notice that Jesus was talking to His disciples in this same flesh and
bone body that he had been resurrected in when He was received up
into heaven. And the angels say he will return in like manner in the
same flesh and bone body.

The following is more proof that the resurrected body is incorruptible
and immortal.

Look! I tell YOU a sacred secret: We shall not all fall asleep
[in death], but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling
of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and
the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which
is mortal must put on immortality. But when this which is corruptible
puts on incorruption and this which is mortal puts on immortality,
then the saying will take place that is written: “Death is swallowed
up forever.” “Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"

(1 Corinthians 15:52-55 NWT)

Originally posted by RJHinds
Here is proof that Jesus was raised in a physical body of flesh and bone
and then acended to Heaven in this physical body of flesh and bone
that had been made incorruptible and immortal at His resurrection.
He will return in the same way according to the Angels.

The following ocurred after the resurrection.
From you Bible, The New World Translation:
...[text shortened]... ” “Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"

(1 Corinthians 15:52-55 NWT)

Please define your understanding of the word 'proof'.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Please define your understanding of the word 'proof'.

I know this is not proof to you for you do not believe in the resurrection.
The JW's however accept their New World Translation of the Holy Bible
as truth. So my proof is based on what is written in the NWT for the
JWs or anyone else that accepts the Holy Bible as truth.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I know this is not proof to you for you do not believe in the resurrection.
The JW's however accept their New World Translation of the Holy Bible
as truth. So my proof is based on what is written in the NWT for the
JWs or anyone else that accepts the Holy Bible as truth.

What is amazing to me is grown men discussing their illusions, trying to prove THEIR delusions are superior to all the rest of the delusions.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Here is proof that Jesus was raised in a physical body of flesh and bone
and then acended to Heaven in this physical body of flesh and bone
that had been made incorruptible and immortal at His resurrection.
He will return in the same way according to the Angels.

The following ocurred after the resurrection.
From you Bible, The New World Translation:
...[text shortened]... ” “Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"

(1 Corinthians 15:52-55 NWT)

My question was can flesh and blood survive in heaven, not on earth. So you didn't answer it at all.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
If there is a textual basis then the translators should take this into consideration when
rendering the verse either with a lower case g or a capital G, I think this is a far more
valid basis that on distinguishing Christ from Satan, dont you? after all, were not
children.

I'm sorry you have a point? You don't see the difference between God and
god?
Kelly

Originally posted by galveston75
My question was can flesh and blood survive in heaven, not on earth. So you didn't answer it at all.

Who cares? Not I. I shall be changed and have a incorruptible and
immortal body just like Jesus to enter into heaven.

Originally posted by galveston75
OMG....You have no clue do you. Show me one scripture that says flesh and blood can survive in heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all where is Heaven? You have no clue nor do I !! You think it's in the vacuum of space? We have no clue accept it is where God dwells





Manny