13 Oct 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieScience hasn't proven a beginning. Even if there was a "beginning" it can't be proven that it can be approached because there is no smallest measure of time... it is infinitesimal. In other words, there is no such thing as "zero hour" as time keeps on ticking at an immeasurably minute amount.
If the universe has always existed, and there is no God?????
but we know that the universe has not always existed, making an premise of this basis,
completely without foundation. In fact, the very fact that secular science has now
concluded that the universe had a beginning throws up all sorts of interesting questions
and gives more credenc ...[text shortened]...
the beginning', is now a valid scientifically established and seemingly accurate statement.
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Science hasn't proven a beginning.
The big bang theory predicts a beginning, does it not?
Even if there was a "beginning" it can't be proven that it can be approached because there is no smallest measure of time... it is infinitesimal. In other words, there is no such thing as "zero hour" as time keeps on ticking at an immeasurably minute amount.
Isn't this just Zeno's paradox of Achilles and the Tortoise. If so, it was answered many centuries, if not millennia ago? Just because we have an infinite series doesn't mean it can't converge.
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Originally posted by amolv06Actually I would disagree on the first point, the big bang is a beginning [of the visible universe] it may not however be THE beginning...
[b]Science hasn't proven a beginning.
The big bang theory predicts a beginning, does it not?
Even if there was a "beginning" it can't be proven that it can be approached because there is no smallest measure of time... it is infinitesimal. In other words, there is no such thing as "zero hour" as time keeps on ticking at an immeasurably minute amo ...[text shortened]... lennia ago? Just because we have an infinite series doesn't mean it can't converge.[/b]
and such a thing might not exist at all.
However the second point is patently ridiculous and is indeed one of Zeno's paradoxes.
Also Time is thought to be granular and thus have a smallest unit. (although the jury is still out on if time even exists, let alone what it is)
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13 Oct 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI find it interesting that you class everything people say to you that you disagree with as total nonsense,
what a piece of nonsense, do you really want me to look up all the instances where
religious person who have been motivated primarily because of their religious
convictions have fomented change is society, from improvements in hospitals and
prisons to the abolishment of slavery, no, well give up your prejudices and face facts.
Perhaps we sho ...[text shortened]... d more ignorance than the meanest medieval church could
hope for. All hail the God of Science.
before completely misunderstanding it, and then spouting a load of nonsense yourself.
Watch these and learn.
http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2010/10/matts-superiority-of-secular-morality.html
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