29 Aug 22
@fmf saidIt is more appropriate to conceive of God's earnest desire as the salvation of his children on earth.
... to be worshiped in gratitude?
If this is what theist doctrine would have us believe, isn't it a very parochial conceptualisation of a creator entity.
God is also due worship in the same way that mothers & fathers are due their own honor for their sacrifice and hard work... But it is on a much higher level than that.
29 Aug 22
@philokalia saidSo why did he create hell and eternal torture then?
It is more appropriate to conceive of God's earnest desire as the salvation of his children on earth.
29 Aug 22
@divegeester saidMatthew 25:41
So why did he create hell and eternal torture then?
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
It was prepared for the devil and his angels
29 Aug 22
@philokalia saidIt seems that one has to buy into the notion of an anthropomorphized creator entity big time - even as you concede that it's unknowable - if one is to rote learn and internalize your particular religious dogma. Too farfetched for me. But, each to their own.
It is more appropriate to conceive of God's earnest desire as the salvation of his children on earth.
God is also due worship in the same way that mothers & fathers are due their own honor for their sacrifice and hard work... But it is on a much higher level than that.
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30 Aug 22
@philokalia saidWhy? And salvation from what?
It is more appropriate to conceive of God's earnest desire as the salvation of his children on earth.
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@philokalia saidWhat exactly is "worship"?
God is also due worship in the same way that mothers & fathers are due their own honor for their sacrifice and hard work... But it is on a much higher level than that.
On my side, there seems to be a lot of projection involved in human conceptions of the purportedly inconceivable "God".
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04 Sep 22
@divegeester saidHave you considered asking a local pastor such questions?
So why did he create hell and eternal torture then?
It might very well turn out that you are asking the wrong questions.
In Christian terms, the Light of Christ abides everywhere and for all Time.
It's just a matter of trusting and relaxing into That.
However, in many cases it's quite understandable that someone might be afraid of losing or giving up something.
It would be incorrect for me to ask you such a personal question about that, so I won't.
Please do proceed as seems best to you.
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04 Sep 22
@divegeester saidWhy don't you explain why you decided to become an agent of Hell?
So why do people get put in there?