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05 Dec 05
Originally posted by joelekSure He blesses people, but where does it say He punishes?
Well, then I assume you don't believe He blesses people either.
Scripture teaches he blesses, and Scripture teaches he punishes. Take it or leave it, but don't do a bit of each.
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06 Dec 05
Originally posted by specs57Ok...but I thought you were speaking of today. This is end times is it not?
Isaiah 66:16 For with fire and with his sword the Lord will eecute judgment upon all men, and many will be those slain by the Lord
I have more if you want to hear them too
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterGalatians 6:7-8:
Sure He blesses people, but where does it say He punishes?
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by joelekI'm not sure that this is the proper verse for the point you are
Galatians 6:7-8:
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
making. I do believe that God blesses and curses, but the universe
is setup so that we simply get what we plant, this is true in the
fields where our crops grow, and in our lives in how we order them.
Kelly
06 Dec 05
How about,
"For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment." I Cor 11:29-31.
(Fallen asleep = died)
And actually, the Bible speaks of hell much more than it does heaven. Even Jesus spoke more about judgment and hell (Gehennah) than he ever did heaven.
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by joelekOkay, I see your point.
I considered your point actually when I was thinking about posting that passage. But I believe the phrase "God cannot be mocked" is there for a very specific reason. It is there because it is God who ultimately brings about the reapings of our sowings, not just karma or some equivalent.
Kelly
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterHow about this
Ok...but I thought you were speaking of today. This is end times is it not?
Exodus 32:34-35
Now go, lead the people to the place I told you about. Look! My angel will lead the way before you. And when I come to call the people to account, I will certainly hold them responsible for their sins.”
Then the Lord sent a great plague upon the people because they had worshiped the calf Aaron had made. (NLT)
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterBut we can explain (even if only in loose terms sometimes) so much of the universe that we live in. In terms of being the ultimate explantion God is coming awfly close to death....
Maybe He gave us brains and we choose to ignore Him? Perhaps He has given enough already that would compel someone to believe He created it in the first place. Like the wonders all around you.
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by specs57Most of these miracles can be explained in terms of simple physical and chemical processes. Life included.
Open your eyes and see the many miracles he still works today they are proof enough in his existence
And jimmyb270 said that God gave us evidence he didn't exist; I simply haven't seen any examples of this evidence
And unlike God there is no evidence to support your Flying Spaghetti Monster
Besides there are dogs named Muffy.
I see no evidence for God - other than a book. And unlike alot of you guys I don't believe everything I read.
06 Dec 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterThe definition of sin is an act that goes against the will of God. Sin is not some separate entity that has nothing to do with God. Sin and God are very much connected.
Sin has consequences in itself. God simply warns that it leads to death and destruction.
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
John 5:14 Afterwards, Jesus findeth him in the temple and said unto him: Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
It’s clear that the consequences of sin are determined by God. “Reap what you sow” is God’s law.