Spirituality
26 Nov 17
05 Dec 17
Originally posted by @black-beetleNo bias there.
Yes; for he tries to explain that a new religion is not what is needed.
What is indeed needed, is a free from superstitions clear mind.
No religion😵
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou look back at the last 2000 years of religion and you find death and destruction rampant from religious wars. But of course it's NEVER the fault of the religion ONLY the fault of faulty people.
No bias there.
I hope there comes a time when humanity grows up and out of the need for superstitions like religions, the biggest scam of the past 10,000 years.
06 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonhouseI hate playing devil's advocate here, but religion was crucial to our rise from muck to civilization (a journey we haven't completed yet).
You look back at the last 2000 years of religion and you find death and destruction rampant from religious wars. But of course it's NEVER the fault of the religion ONLY the fault of faulty people.
I hope there comes a time when humanity grows up and out of the need for superstitions like religions, the biggest scam of the past 10,000 years.
Originally posted by @sonhouseIt’s always the fault of people who choose! Why do you want to disconnect people from the choices they make to blame religion, do you do the same thing with guns?
You look back at the last 2000 years of religion and you find death and destruction rampant from religious wars. But of course it's NEVER the fault of the religion ONLY the fault of faulty people.
I hope there comes a time when humanity grows up and out of the need for superstitions like religions, the biggest scam of the past 10,000 years.
Originally posted by @kellyjayAtheists don't like free will. Free will allows people to make poor choices which cause pain and, therefore, is unacceptable.
It’s always the fault of people who choose! Why do you want to disconnect people from the choices they make to blame religion, do you do the same thing with guns?
Originally posted by @whodeyNo.
Atheists don't like free will. Free will allows people to make poor choices which cause pain and, therefore, is unacceptable.
It has nothing to do with free will; the rigid religious dogma and the blind belief that this dogma is the so called "Absolute Truth" are some of the factors that make the concept of religion ugly.
For example, the dangerous discrimination of the persons which are to Christians either “brothers” or “children of Satan”, is clearly a mental product grounded solely on a religious blind belief that must be accepted as is under all circumstances, regardless of one's free will. Over here, a Christian has no choice at all. It follows that anybody who is not a Christian, will be by definition for ever and ever a "child of Satan" merely because he choose to follow another religious path😵
Originally posted by @kellyjayI castigate religions because of the written in stone biblical and Quranic text stating, you are either with us or against us. Just how much sense does that make for the three major religions all considering Abraham to be a prophet and such, instead, making enemies of those worshipping basically the same god.
It’s always the fault of people who choose! Why do you want to disconnect people from the choices they make to blame religion, do you do the same thing with guns?
That alone tells me a god was not involved in the manufacturing of these religions.
Show me how a god would make religions fly at each other's throats.
08 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonhouseWell, you what are you suggesting that in your stance, you castigate religions because they
I castigate religions because of the written in stone biblical and Quranic text stating, you are either with us or against us. Just how much sense does that make for the three major religions all considering Abraham to be a prophet and such, instead, making enemies of those worshipping basically the same god.
That alone tells me a god was not involved ...[text shortened]... uring of these religions.
Show me how a god would make religions fly at each other's throats.
are not with you, what does make you?
08 Dec 17
Originally posted by @black-beetleEvery learning and never coming to knowledge.
No.
It has nothing to do with free will; the rigid religious dogma and the blind belief that this dogma is the so called "Absolute Truth" are some of the factors that make the concept of religion ugly.
For example, the dangerous discrimination of the persons which are to Christians either “brothers” or “children of Satan”, is clearly a mental prod ...[text shortened]... for ever and ever a "child of Satan" merely because he choose to follow another religious path😵
Originally posted by @avalanchethecatNo drugs, avalanchethecat, just pure religious dogma.
What? Are you on drugs?
When the scientists build their ideas based on the concept of synthesis and the philosophers analyze abstract ideas advancing us human beings, the theologians keep up screwing relentlessly thunderbolts in broken chairs with rusty chainsaws whilst their sophisticated audiences applause, applause, applause😵
Originally posted by @kellyjayThat makes me a target from both religions. What do you think would happen if I was in ISIS Syria and said Mohummad is a LIAR or some such. Don't think I would last too long.
Well, you what are you suggesting that in your stance, you castigate religions because they
are not with you, what does make you?
And the same for some ultra right wing Christians.
Originally posted by @apathistNο.
I hate playing devil's advocate here, but religion was crucial to our rise from muck to civilization (a journey we haven't completed yet).
Our development is not grounded on blind religious beliefs but on the products of our nature alone. Our nature is the nature of the mind (mind understood as mental activity, that is).
Of cource, this nature of ours not only is not sinful, but is also naturally pure of all fleeting stains although under specific causes and conditions it may suffer from emotional obscurations (disturbing emotions and attitudes) and cognitive obscurations (problematic knowables), causing differ problems on certain levels.
These fleeting obscurations of our mental activities (mind) are overcomed solely by means of concrete evaluation of whatever we happen to perceive. The accurate evaluation of the mind is grounded on science, philosophy and deep meditation as regards every single one aspect of reality we happen to perceive in the realms of the Physical World and our Inner World (our feelings and our ideas).
So I argue that the cornerstones of our civilization are Science, Philosophy and Meditation. Religion is simply a problematic mental product of ours, brought on by our struggle to embrace the kosmic chaos by means of answering our deep ignorance over specific issues with blind beliefs and superstitions. The more our societies progress from deep ignorance to concrete knowledge, the more we need religion less.
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11 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonhouseBIG DEAL, walk on the south side of Chicago find some people who do not believe or
That makes me a target from both religions. What do you think would happen if I was in ISIS Syria and said Mohummad is a LIAR or some such. Don't think I would last too long.
And the same for some ultra right wing Christians.
care about God, you could find yourself dead there too. People, make the choices!
11 Dec 17
Originally posted by @black-beetleSo you say!
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Our development is not grounded on blind religious beliefs but on the products of our nature alone. Our nature is the nature of the mind (mind understood as mental activity, that is).
Of cource, this nature of ours not only is not sinful, but is also naturally pure of all fleeting stains although under specific causes and conditions it may suff ...[text shortened]... ieties progress from deep ignorance to concrete knowledge, the more we need religion less.
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