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Originally posted by KellyJay
If you have to kill a child through abortion to not worry about it, what kind of society do you
live in? Sex isn't dirty, it is one of the greatest things we have, but it can bring more than
just pleasure, children too. You were told the story about the birds and bees right, you know
how and why children come into the world?
Eladar at least understands my point, you don't. What I am saying is that if you can't have decent birth control (except for sterilization which ends every future wish for a baby) and you have baby you don't want, I understand why someone would chose to go for abortion.
Yes, as a biology student, I know the how about the birds and bees, the why is a interseting question, maybe for another thread 🙂

for the linguists interested: 'birds and bees' is in dutch actually 'flowers and bees'

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Originally posted by josephw
Yes it is.
Well, that's not very liberal of you.

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Originally posted by robbebop
Eladar at least understands my point, you don't. What I am saying is that if you can't have decent birth control (except for sterilization which ends every future wish for a baby) and you have baby you don't want, I understand why someone would chose to go for abortion.
Yes, as a biology student, I know the how about the birds and bees, the why is a inter ...[text shortened]... ead 🙂

for the linguists interested: 'birds and bees' is in dutch actually 'flowers and bees'
Well abortion doesn't prevent a pregnancy the fact that someone wants one shows they are
already pregnant, what an abortion does do is it kill the child. It is not a means of birth
control it is a means of taking a life. I get that many may want to think, that if they were
not born they don't count some how, so it isn't so bad. Yet they ended a life, they cannot
just wish it all away like they never happen, there was another life and now its dead.

Birth control there are so many kinds, the most effective being waiting till you ready. Yet
the people today want the pleasure, and they want no guilt over their choices. Even if
we could greatly reduce abortions and STD who cares, they want, what they want, when
they want it.

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Originally posted by robbebop
Eladar at least understands my point, you don't. What I am saying is that if you can't have decent birth control (except for sterilization which ends every future wish for a baby) and you have baby you don't want, I understand why someone would chose to go for abortion.
Yes, as a biology student, I know the how about the birds and bees, the why is a inter ...[text shortened]... ead 🙂

for the linguists interested: 'birds and bees' is in dutch actually 'flowers and bees'
Sterilization can be reversed.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Again, if men could become pregnant, abortion would not only be a right, but sanctified, as well. The hypocrisy here is abundant.
Thnx for taking up the slack here Suzi Q. It needed a womans voice. A Christian woman is even better.

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Originally posted by Eladar
If you are a Christian and you don't want to have babies you don't have sex.

It was not an insult, it was the truth.

Why would a Christian commit a sin because the Christian didn't want to commit a sin?

Don't have sex until you are married. Stay married and raise your family. Live your life following God's commands.

It works.
No it doesn't work. For many, many people. What are the divorce rates? I guess that should be illegal too no?

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Originally posted by robbebop
So how should we prevent pregnancy according to you? Or should we just go back in time 200 years and all have 7 children?
It will be the black market that takes up the slack..

Do they call them "backyard abortions" over there too?

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Thnx for taking up the slack here Suzi Q. It needed a womans voice. A Christian woman is even better.
What about the women's voices on this issue as recorded by polls in the U.S.? They must be in many cases "Christian women" too, surely?

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
No it doesn't work. For many, many people. What are the divorce rates? I guess that should be illegal too no?
Those who get divorced do not follow God's commands. Lots of people claim to be Christian but do not follow God's commands.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Well, that's not very liberal of you.
Oh? You want liberal? I'll give you liberal! So there! 😉

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Originally posted by Eladar
Those who get divorced do not follow God's commands. Lots of people claim to be Christian but do not follow God's commands.
At least you're consistent. Since a woman should not be allowed to escape an unwanted pregnancy(*), it follows that she shouldn't be allowed to escape an abusive spouse.

(*)a fertilized egg is not a baby, is not a child, is not a person
Third trimester elective abortion should not be allowed, imo.

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Originally posted by apathist
At least you're consistent. Since a woman should not be allowed to escape an unwanted pregnancy(*), it follows that she shouldn't be allowed to escape an abusive spouse.

(*)a fertilized egg is not a baby, is not a child, is not a person
Third trimester elective abortion should not be allowed, imo.
Men who live according to the Bible are not abusive.

You are consistant too, purely evil.

Have you watched how the fetus screams as it gets torn apart? Or do you wish to continue to pretend the butchered young one is just a bunch of cells?

Video of 11week old fetus.

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Originally posted by robbebop
So how should we prevent pregnancy according to you? Or should we just go back in time 200 years and all have 7 children?
abort.73.com

WHO HAS ABORTIONS?
In 2013, unmarried women accounted for 85.2% of all abortions (CDC).

You have a lot to learn robbebop. You should look up some statistics and see why and who are having abortions. And try thinking outside the box you've constructed around your head. Abortion is probably the deadliest and most heinous crime perpetrated against women and unborn children in the history of the world.

Ask yourself why we should "prevent pregnancy" in the first place. Who's bright idea was that? Was it a woman's idea or a man's? Why are 85.2% of women that have abortions unmarried? Could it be because they got pregnant? That's a no-brainer isn't it?! Why did they get pregnant? That's a no-brainer too!

It's about the irresponsible behavior by two people without a thought about anyone but themselves resulting in the death of an unborn child.

Luke 17:1,2
Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Men who live according to the Bible are not abusive.
If you mean NT, say NT. The bible includes the OT which contains all manner of abuse, often sanctioned by God.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Sterilization can be reversed.
Unfortunately the same isn't true for stupidity.

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