Spirituality
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Originally posted by josephwAs for the murder idea about abortion, see my edit in the post above.
I understand you have a philosophy of life. You are posing your thoughts and ideas about how you think things should be in contrast to the way they have been and are.
You pose your opinions as though they are right and true, while suggesting that having 7 children is a bad thing curtailing personal freedom.
There's nothing wrong with having 7 children. ...[text shortened]... in the "shadows" will be exposed by the light. Abortion is murder. Plain and simple. No excuses.
As for my philosophy of life, I have indeed ideas and views that I am posting, BUT I don't say they are THE right idea. If you want to believe in God because it makes you feel better, that is fine by me. If He helped you through hard times and gave you courage, even better. If you believe in Allah and the Coran, Jaweh and the Thora, the numberous Hindu gods and the Vedas, or the ideas of Siddartha Gautama, all fine. But that doesn't mean I can't disagree with you, especially considering complex and difficult matters such as abortion.
About the 7 children, if everyone had seven children, that would mean there would be more poverty, more hunger, more unemployed,...
Again, you are totally free to have 0,1,6,100 children, but other couples should also be able to choose how many children they want, without being convicted by their religion for using a condom/ the pill/ ...
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by EladarI like some Catholic teachings, and some I don't like.
In other words you don't like Catholic teachings.
No one is saying anyone must be Catholic.
no one is saying it in this forum, but there are plenty of Catholics that are trying to convince everyon to become Catholics
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by robbebopIf people decide to be Catholic, then they are free to do so. They can have 10 kids if they like.
I like some Catholic teachings, and some I don't like.
no one is saying it in this forum, but there are plenty of Catholics that are trying to convince everyon to become Catholics
It has nothing to do with ripping fetuses apart as they scream so that people can have sex without having to take care of their kids.
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by EladarMaybe because there are no actual commands.
Those who get divorced do not follow God's commands. Lots of people claim to be Christian but do not follow God's commands.
Most Christians seem unclear on what the actual 10 commandments mean, or just how to be a good christian in general.
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by robbebopAngelmakers. Classic.
Is that the expression in English? Here they call the people that execute the abortion in black market angelmakers (not kidding). That is an old word though, as abortions are allowed until the 12th week, and past this under certain circumstances.
Yeah we call them backyard abortions in australia
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by karoly aczelYou mean like tubal? I have no problem with abortions when baby and mother will probably die.
Not if she dies due to having to give birth. Even though her doctors say she has a high chance of dying herself . she cant have an abortion?
That's not rhe kind of abortions I am dealing with in this discussion, but thanks for asking.
Originally posted by EladarNow you are wrong. The problem is that all we here of nowadays are extremists that call themselves muslims. Just as the KKK isn't representative for Catholics, IS/ Al Qaeda/... isn't representative for all muslims
I haven't heard of a Catholic that says all must be Catholic. These days only Muslims hold to that kind of thinking.
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by EladarThey wouldn't have to undergo abortion if the Church would allow the use of condoms, the pill. Why doesn't the church allow this?
If people decide to be Catholic, then they are free to do so. They can have 10 kids if they like.
It has nothing to do with ripping fetuses apart as they scream so that people can have sex without having to take care of their kids.
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by karoly aczelIn retrospect, a correcter translation would be 'little-angel maker', but it is hard to translate, as 'little' in Dutch is just added behind a word.
Angelmakers. Classic.
Yeah we call them backyard abortions in australia
The word is almost never used anymore, but most people still know what it means, partially because there was a "famous" Belgian book written a few years ago called 'The angelmaker'
29 Jan 17
Originally posted by robbebopOnce again you repeat the lies you've been taught. Your brainwashing runs deep and can easily change the topic.
Now you are wrong. The problem is that all we here of nowadays are extremists that call themselves muslims. Just as the KKK isn't representative for Catholics, IS/ Al Qaeda/... isn't representative for all muslims
Back to the topic, anything to counter that you view abortion as ripping apart fetuses causing them great pain so people do not need to raise their sons and daughters?
After having 1, 2 or 3 kids the person can choose to be sterilized?