Agnostic atheist

@chaney3 said
Ghost is agnostic, not atheist.

I'd describe him as an "explicit atheist". I'm pretty sure he'd agree.

@fmf said
Label me as you want. Meanwhile I describe myself as an agnostic atheist [you can Google it] or, another way of putting it, an implicit atheist [you can Google that too].

You are agnostic.
Ghost is agnostic.
End of story.

@chaney3 said
You are agnostic.
Ghost is agnostic.
End of story.

Google the terms I provided you with. You will learn something.

@fmf said
Google the terms I provided you with. You will learn something.

Not necessary.
Both yourself and Ghost are open to a creator.
That makes you agnostics.

@chaney3 said
Not necessary.
Both yourself and Ghost are open to a creator.
That makes you agnostics.

Both Ghost of a Duke and I are atheists.

@fmf said
Both Ghost of a Duke and I are atheists.

No you're not.
Afraid of losing your precious label?
Yes.

@chaney3 said
No you're not.
Afraid of losing your precious label?
Yes.

As I said, you can label me how you want: homosexual, liar, coward, theist, atheist, troll, whatever you want. The label I have settled on encapsulates my stance with regard to a revealed god or gods. You, for instance, have labelled yourself a Christian and 'Always Have Been a Christian'. And you have also labelled yourself a 'Not a Christian' and 'Never Have Been a Christian'. Both. So you can fiddle around with labels all you want. It is of no real consequence.

@fmf said
Google the terms I provided you with. You will learn something.

I was raised in a religion that was not seen as Christian, yet that is how I identified myself because I could find no other requirement biblically other than a sincere belief in Christ. I was challenged and ridiculed for maintaining that identity. Identity is a personal exploration, yet I continued to listen to a diversity of voices.

Now, I acknowledge the possibility that all are valid...could that be a direct complement to the definition of an agnostic atheist? I don’t know, but however you identify (each, and all here), I honor that.

I know that your post was specifically meant for someone else, but...

I did Google it (as well as implicit atheist)

and

I did learn something.

Thank you.

@hakima said
Now, I acknowledge the possibility that all are valid...could that be a direct complement to the definition of an agnostic atheist? I don’t know, but however you identify (each, and all here), I honor that.

If religions give people purpose, structure, community and solace - and if they do not result in harm to others and/or result in their adherents behaving in a morally sound way - then I agree that they are all "valid".

@chaney3 said
Ghost is open minded to a creator.
Ghost is NOT an atheist.
Neither are you.

I think first Chaney, you need to figure out what you are...

@fmf said
I'd describe him as an "explicit atheist". I'm pretty sure he'd agree.

Indeed sir.

@fmf said
If religions give people purpose, structure, community and solace - and if they do not result in harm to others and/or result in their adherents behaving in a morally sound way - then I agree that they are all "valid".

And they don’t harm their members.

@chaney3 said
No you're not.
Afraid of losing your precious label?
Yes.

Are you today wearing your “I’ve always been a Christian” label, or your “I’ve never been a Christian” label?