Originally posted by dj2beckerHow do you know it can't? Just because in your limited experience you've never encountered self-assembling and self-repairing 'space-ships' doesn't mean they don't exist. Your experience of the universe is really entirely insignificant, you have absolutely no idea what goes on in most of it. Why do you pretend to knowledge you don't have? If you are talking about some specific 'space-ship' you are going to need to be a little clearer in your posting.
Because it can't. If you disagree show me one that created itself and that can repair itself and that will be the end of the discussion. Do you think the Mona Lisa painting could paint itself? I have studied Biology, have you? Any functionality that a spaceship has is due to the design and programming of an engineer. Yet you simply assume the functionality of a cell exists on its own accord? Open your eyes catboy.
Further, your comparison of cellular biology to human engineering is something only a complete ass would do. If you had any comprehension of cellular biology beyond the schoolboy level you are evidently graced with, you wouldn't be so confident in ascribing it to the omnipotent creator you are so proud to worship. Open your mind, dickhead.
The Mona Lisa - let's be charitable and assume you're talking about one of the number of paintings given this moniker that were executed by Da Vinci - obviously didn't paint themselves, it is asinine to suggest otherwise. It is, however, perfectly possible that a similar likeness could have occurred entirely without conscious input somewhere in the vast expanse of time and space that comprises our universe.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeMy point? Most likely the God you don't believe in is not the God I believe in.
Hollywood also fabricated King Kong and Godzilla. What's your point?
Sometimes a fabrication is just that. Not an exaggeration or an embellishment, but a fabrication born of mortal fear and suffering. - And the Apostles were victims of their time, when the existence of God was taken for granted.
Cut to the chase. Where did everything come from ?
Your answer is looked for.
I'm not interested in someone else chiming in for you tag team style.
What's your alternative answer to an un-created and eternal Creator ?
23 May 17
Originally posted by sonshipAtheists cannot offer a reasonable explanation as to where or why the universe came from, nor the origin of life. It is likey that a strong bias and possible disliking of the Bible God has steered them away from even considering a 'creator'.
My point? Most likely the God you don't believe in is not the God I believe in.
Cut to the chase. Where did everything come from ?
Your answer is looked for.
I'm not interested in someone else chiming in for you tag team style.
What's your alternative answer to an un-created and eternal Creator ?
They may argue that proof is not overwhelming for a creator, yet they offer very little to explain things otherwise.
Keep up the good work sonship. 🙂
23 May 17
Originally posted by sonship to Ghost of a DukeHe must have answered this question umpteen-and-a-half times. Why are you asking him again? You are taking a leaf out of djbecker/Fetchmyjunk's book it seems.
Where did everything come from ? Your answer is looked for.
If, one day, you finally accept his answer, and come to believe it is better than yours, will you say so?
23 May 17
Originally posted by chaney3Do you believe the explanation you offer is "reasonable" and therefore must also be "reasonable" to everyone who hears you offer it?
Atheists cannot offer a reasonable explanation as to where or why the universe came from, nor the origin of life.
Originally posted by FMFWhen he spoke of what he knows of the "origin of life", you say he used the expression "a random roll of the cosmic dice" caused the "origin of life"? I don't remember that. When did he say that?
What answer does Ghost of a Duke give when you ask him to "explain things"?
Originally posted by chaney3
The universe and humans came to be with a random roll of the cosmic dice.[/b]
23 May 17
Originally posted by FMFA 'creator' is reasonable yes.
Do you believe the explanation you offer is "reasonable" and therefore must also be "reasonable" to everyone who hears you offer it?
Religion, books and opinions seem to have put such a bad taste in the mouths of some, that considering creation is no longer an option.
23 May 17
Originally posted by FMFI was paraphrasing and going by memory.
When he spoke of what he knows of the "origin of life", you say he used the expression "a random roll of the cosmic dice" caused the "origin of life"? I don't remember that. When did he say that?
Ghost will certainly let me know if I got it wrong.
23 May 17
Originally posted by chaney3What does Ghost of a Duke's admitting he does not know how life originated have to do with religion? He is an atheist.
Religion, books and opinions seem to have put such a bad taste in the mouths of some, that considering creation is no longer an option.
23 May 17
Originally posted by chaney3Why? Aren't you interested in what he actually said?
I was paraphrasing and going by memory.
You talk to him all the time, and you talk about this all the time, and you don't have a clear memory of what he said? And come up with self-serving "paraphrasing" instead. That seems a bit strange. Is your interest in what Ghost of a Duke thinks genuine?
23 May 17
Originally posted by FMFUnlike you, I don't keep records and notes of what people say. I also don't spend time scrolling through posting history.
Why? Aren't you interested in what he actually said?
You talk to him all the time, and you talk about this all the time, and you don't have a clear memory of what he said? And come up with self-serving "paraphrasing" instead. That seems a bit strange. Is your interest in what Ghost of a Duke thinks genuine?
Ghost will correct me as needed.