@rajk999 saidForget what you promote, which do you do?
The most important lesson in the Cain and Abel story is stated here by John
[i]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, an ...[text shortened]... e and DO unrighteousness.
Children of God promote and DO righteousness[/b]
Which do you promote?
@divegeester saidWrong again.
More insincerity, dishonesty in fact.
You aren’t “passing through” at all; you purposefully logged on and purposefully made your post.
Now you’re running away so you don’t have to face any blowback or scriptural disagreement. Kind of sums you up in one post I’d say.
I'm not staying.
I don't think you could sum up the fingers of your hand. Obviously you're bristling with disdain and contempt, and pent-up anger, resentment with an unforgiving spirit.
@secondson saidPopping in now and then to skim a little scum off the top of this forum is much better than taking a swan dive into the deep end of it.
Wrong again.
I'm not staying.
I don't think you could sum up the fingers of your hand. Obviously you're bristling with disdain and contempt, and pent-up anger, resentment with an unforgiving spirit.
03 Jun 21
@suzianne saidAre you, a professed Christian, also in a lesbian relationship, asking me what do I DO? Why? I never ask people what they do. I am here to speak of doctrines preached. What sonship does or what I do is none of your business. Next time dont boast that you are a lesbian..
Forget what you promote, which do you do?
@rajk999 saidAnd you sound like Cain.
Hymeneaus and Alexander were proponents of Gnosticism, which promoted the doctrine that man was a sinful creature and Christian morality and righteousness was not required. They promoted knowledge, understanding and philosophical studies rather than sound moral codes as the ones preached by Christ. They did not believe the the keeping of the commandments of Christ were required.
Sounds a lot like you and sonship.
@secondson saidThats the best you got? All this downtime you had and you learnt nothing? You and sonship promote a doctrine of ignoring good works. According to John Cain ignored good works : Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. (1 John 3:12 KJV). So its you and sonship who are like Cain.
And you sound like Cain.
@suzianne said1 John 3:12
Forget what you promote, which do you do?
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Jesus severely rebuked the Pharisees of his day for laying heavy burdens on those seeking to enter the kingdom of God.
Cain slew Abel because Abel's sacrifice was offered in faith. Cain was a religious hypocrite like his progeny the Pharisees that slew Jesus.
I don't think Rajk understands this.
You and sonship promote a doctrine of ignoring good works.
If I ignore good works why have I used passages which speak both of salvation through grace and subsequent good works? This time I will only bold the critical portions to an understanding of NT salvation.
1.) " For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: Not of works that no one should boast. For we are His masterpiece, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand in order that we would walk in them." (Eph. 2:8-10)
2.) "But when the kindness and the love to man of our Savior God appeared, not of works which we did but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit." (Titus 3:4,5)
You still bear false witness after even many years. Both verses show man is saved by grace through faith. The first verse highlights that having been saved God has works prepared that we should walk in them.
You still lie and bear false witness after many years of knowing my posts.
@rajk999 saidI said more with five words than all the words you've posted in this entire thread.
Thats the best you got? All this downtime you had and you learnt nothing? You and sonship promote a doctrine of ignoring good works. According to John Cain ignored good works : Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. (1 John 3:12 KJV). So its you and sonship who are like Cain.
But you have your head in a religious box with the words written on it that say, "do as I say, not as I do".
@secondson saidIf you are referring to the commandments of Christ as burdensome then are you an enemy of the cross of Christ , and not one of the sheep of Christ.
1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Jesus severely rebuked the Pharisees of his day for laying heavy burdens on those seeking to enter the kingdom of God.
Cain slew Abel because Abel's sacrifice was offered in faith. Cain was a religious hypocrite like his progeny the Pharisees that slew Jesus.
I don't think Rajk understands this.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28 KJV)
You hear the voice of your church pastor. Both of you will be cast out of the Kingdom of God.
@sonship saidYou fail to understand the bibleYou and sonship promote a doctrine of ignoring good works.
If I ignore good works why have I used passages which speak both of salvation through grace and subsequent good works? This time I will only bold the critical portions to an understanding of NT salvation.
1.) " For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it ...[text shortened]... hould walk in them.
You still lie and bear false witness after many years of knowing my posts.
Paul said:
Man is saved by grace.
Man does not get eternal life until he lives righteously
Saved, born again Christians can, and will be, cast out of the Kingdom of God, if they live sinfully.
Saved DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN Eternal Life.
You continue to preach nonsense to people.
@secondson saidI just told you. Jesus said. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: (John 10:27 KJV). I know you kind of retarded so we will take this slow like you are a 5 yr old.
Still can't read Rajk?
Jesus said.
HIS sheep
Hears HIS voice
They follow CHRIST.
Therefore they will get eternal life.
You on the other hand.
Hear some other persons voice
You do not follow Christ
You will not get eternal life.
So yes I can read, but I dont hear your voice. When you write your nonsense I read it and understand what you say but it is all nonsense and gibberish.
@rajk999 saidSaved by grace through faith means having eternal life.
Saved DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN Eternal Life.
You cannot prove otherwise except you twist the scriptures.
But like the good Pharisee you are you will add to the Word of God till it says what you want it to.