Originally posted by stellspalfieYeah. I have never yet heard anyone give any convincing reason why anybody SHOULD worship
'killing people who dont worship him'
seriously suzianne, havent women put up with enough egotistical, sexist, psychopathic, vain men over the years. yet you are happy to bow down to the king of them all. he who only loves those that are willing to love him.
a god [even if it did exist] other than "they will punish you if you don't".
That's a reason to fear a god certainly, but it's not a good reason to worship them.
Originally posted by stellspalfieYou haven't seen NOTHING yet, my friend.
'killing people who dont worship him'
seriously suzianne, havent women put up with enough egotistical, sexist, psychopathic, vain men over the years. yet you are happy to bow down to the king of them all. he who only loves those that are willing to love him.
Originally posted by googlefudgeWhat IS a 'good reason'?
Yeah. I have never yet heard anyone give any convincing reason why anybody SHOULD worship
a god [even if it did exist] other than "they will punish you if you don't".
That's a reason to fear a god certainly, but it's not a good reason to worship them.
This I gotta hear.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by SuzianneI don't think there is a good reason.
What IS a 'good reason'?
This I gotta hear.
If you think there is a good reason to worship a being then I am all
ears to hear what it is.
I have not yet heard anyone come up with one, and have not been
able to think of one myself.
Originally posted by Suzianneafter spending a billion years worshipping some ancient, sexist, violent, egotistical maniac day in day out and you look to your left and see robbie and glaveston in their white robes and little white wings on one side and look to your right and see sonship and rjhinds sitting on a cloud. you are going to start missing the uber-cool atheists from the spirituality forum. if only you didnt help your god hack us to death for not thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread.
You haven't seen NOTHING yet, my friend.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by stellspalfieWow, what pathology is behind that 'fantasy world'? First of all, I can't imagine a heaven where *all* 'make the cut'. There are many who call themselves 'Christian' today who will be heartily surprised to find themselves in the 'lake of fire'. And I'm really not sure what this "hacking us to death" is all about.
after spending a billion years worshipping some ancient, sexist, violent, egotistical maniac day in day out and you look to your left and see robbie and glaveston in their white robes and little white wings on one side and look to your right and see sonship and rjhinds sitting on a cloud. you are going to start missing the uber-cool atheists from the sp ...[text shortened]... didnt help your god hack us to death for not thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by stellspalfie"demeaning"? Really? God is the Creator of the Universe, Our Father Who Art in Heaven! It is actually a privilege to worship Him, the highest function of what it means to be human. You really need to stop letting your ego get in your way.
worshipping somebody else is demeening. demanding to be worshipped is vile
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by Suzianneartistic licence. blasting us with your laser beam eyes didnt seem as powerful as 'hack'.
Wow, what pathology is behind that 'fantasy world'? First of all, I can't imagine a heaven where *all* 'make the cut'. There are many who call themselves 'Christian' today who will be heartily surprised to find themselves in the 'lake of fire'. And I'm really not sure what this "hacking us to death" is all about.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by googlefudge"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -- John 3:16
Yeah. I have never yet heard anyone give any convincing reason why anybody SHOULD worship
a god [even if it did exist] other than "they will punish you if you don't".
That's a reason to fear a god certainly, but it's not a good reason to worship them.
He did this (this amazing gift!) for us (the entire world, not just the important people, but for everyone in the world) because He so loved us (everyone!), giving His only Son (imagine that), so that every person, from the highest down to the lowest, could have eternal life, if *only* we would believe in Him. Yes, this is a God worthy of worship, of endless praise, way, WAY beyond just the 'lip service' most people give Him.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by Suzianneno the highest function of being human is being kind, loving and generous. worship achieves nothing for either party and is a complete waste of time and up there with going to strip clubs on the demeaning scale.
"demeaning"? Really? God is the Creator of the Universe, Our Father Who Art in Heaven! It is actually a privilege to worship Him, the highest function of what it means to be human. You really need to stop letting your ego get in your way.
16 Jan 14
Originally posted by Suziannehe could have used any method to absolve man of sin. this makes giving his son just ridiculous.
"[b]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -- John 3:16
He did this (this amazing gift!) for us (the entire world, not just the important people, but for everyone in the world) because He so loved us (everyone!), giving His only Son ( ...[text shortened]... rthy of worship, of endless praise, way, WAY beyond just the 'lip service' most people give Him.[/b]
there is a little test to see if people have psychopathic tenancies - a full train is heading down the track towards an unseen brick wall, which will kill everybody on board if the train hits. you are on a bridge going across the track and can see what is going to happen. you notice that there is a man on the bridge above the track. if you push him over he will land in front of the train killing him but forcing the train to stop saving the passengers from certain death.
in your story god is pushing his own son over the bridge to stop the train. if you or i did that it would be an amazing sacrifice, questionable, but probably for the passengers worthy of praise.
only if its god on the bridge he doesnt have to push his son, he can magically stop the train. the sacrifice of his son would seem brutal and pointless. especially considering death is irrelevant to jesus, effectively he was just returning home.
Originally posted by SuzianneNope
"[b]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -- John 3:16
He did this (this amazing gift!) for us (the entire world, not just the important people, but for everyone in the world) because He so loved us (everyone!), giving His only Son ( ...[text shortened]... rthy of worship, of endless praise, way, WAY beyond just the 'lip service' most people give Him.[/b]