12 Jan 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI'm quite certain that sonship isn't blatantly attempting to add to the book for the purpose of twisting what is written.
He has used the analogy 'the son of a horse is a horse.'
What does this tell you about how he reads 'the sons of God'? Is this not adding to scripture?
I think it is more than a 'stretch.' I think God-ized is a blatant attempt to add 'to the book,' to twist what is written.
If he was I'd be dismayed to say the least. I wouldn't go so far as that. I suspect sonship is hearing those things from another source.
I have no problem with you having your own opinion.
12 Jan 22
@divegeester saidYou were born to parents I assume, we’re not they above you in authority while all of you are human beings. We are flesh while God is Spirit, we are in this life temporary while God is unchanging throughout all eternity.
So not “co-equal”?
So two people, one is greater than the other?
But they are “one”?
Weird. Error. Nonsense.
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12 Jan 22
@josephw saidYes, that other source is Witness Lee.
I'm quite certain that sonship isn't blatantly attempting to add to the book for the purpose of twisting what is written.
If he was I'd be dismayed to say the least. I wouldn't go so far as that. I suspect sonship is hearing those things from another source.
I have no problem with you having your own opinion.
13 Jan 22
@sonship said"Is the use of the word "trinity" amount for you to adding or taking away from the Bible?"
@josephwAnd do some presume to overreach indeed.
It is usually due to adding to and taking away from God's Word.
Joseph, others answer FOR you. Would you give me YOUR answer please?
1.) Is the use of the word "trinity" amount for you to adding or taking away from the Bible?
Another question:
2.) Does this verse repres ...[text shortened]... r on His throne." (Rev. 3:21)[/b]
Does this verse indicate human overreach in relation to God ?
The word "trinity" is not used as a substitute for another word in the Bible.
Trinity is a descriptive relative to the Godhead.
Whereas, "killing power" is a good description of a laundry detergent that kills 99.9% of bacteria.
"Does this verse represent a presumptious overreach of man concerning his relationship to God? Yes or No."
"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
It would if a mere mortal had said it.
What's more, what has that verse to do with killing power?
Also, it is taken(quoted) out of context.
A text without a context is a pretext.
13 Jan 22
@divegeester saidWhy is it rubbish? God is everywhere in His completeness, everywhere at once He is entirely God, so they occupy the same space, the same way, they desire all the same things, in the same way, they are one, in total agreement and essence. A Spiritual being like God isn't confined like we are to time and space; we are here in this temporary world with each other, we occupy our own space, but we have relationships like a marriage that Biblically the two become one. We are not talking about a multithreaded god, co-equal; we are talking about three persons, one being, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, not some creature with several heads sharing a body. Please don't attempt to describe what I believe; so far, you have not grasped it and only twist it to an unrecognizable pile of something smelly out in left field.
That’s a rubbish analogy. Doesn’t even make sense in terms of this supposed three in one co-equal multiheaded god you believe in.
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@divegeester said<<Besides the trinity doctrine is just another non-biblical man-made bogus pile of flimflam.>>
Because your assertion that Jesus is lower than the father and yet they are still one person, is not the same as a parent and child who are NOT one. Not even close.
Besides the trinity doctrine is just another non-biblical man-made bogus pile of flimflam.
I suggest you read Hebrews 1, Psalm 100, John 1:1, and numerous Messianic prophecies
13 Jan 22
@divegeester saidI wish you'd stop misrepresenting what is said to you, three people one being. Not three people one person.
Because your assertion that Jesus is lower than the father and yet they are still one person, is not the same as a parent and child who are NOT one. Not even close.
Besides the trinity doctrine is just another non-biblical man-made bogus pile of flimflam.
13 Jan 22
@divegeester saidThen you should be cheerful no one here has one of those.
I am indeed revolted by your multiheaded version of god, yes.
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13 Jan 22
@pb1022 saidGo have a quiet read of the baptism of Jesus where we have the 3 main protagonists (the son, Father and Holy Spirit) interacting with each other as clearly separate entities and then (with your own reasoning) calibrate that with the Trinity.
<<Besides the trinity doctrine is just another non-biblical man-made bogus pile of flimflam.>>
I suggest you read Hebrews 1, Psalm 100, John 1:1, and numerous Messianic prophecies