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Another Reason for Jesus Dying

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@kellyjay said
Then you should be cheerful no one here has one of those.
As you can see it is my assertion that you do.

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@kellyjay said
I wish you'd stop misrepresenting what is said to you, three people one being. Not three people one person.
Multi-headed paganistic nonsense.

God is one but God is three
The three are co-equal but the father is greater than the son
The father is a spirit but The spirit of Christ is referenced as being in old and New Testament
And lets nor forget the third person, the Holy Spirit
So that’s three distinct spirits

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Go have a quiet read of the baptism of Jesus where we have the 3 main protagonists (the son, Father and Holy Spirit) interacting with each other as clearly separate entities and then (with your own reasoning) calibrate that with the Trinity.
"Let us make man in our image..." the Spirit of God, the Son of God, if not God, then why call them the Spirit of God and God's Son in scripture? That Genesis quote, among other such texts, points to the trinity, not three different Gods, there is but One. God is One; there is nothing about Him in a conflict in His nature at all at any point in any time. No shadow of turning would be impossible for us as we are constantly changing, altering our views, positions, looking at things differently, not so God, and not so God in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are in a perfect loving relationship with each other and have been for eternity; God is not improving. God does nothing that alters God's nature that God isn't God anymore by becoming less than He is. God is not created. He is the prime reality; everything is due to Him and is maintained by Him.

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Here come the blocks of faith speak.

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@divegeester said
Multi-headed paganistic nonsense.

God is one but God is three
The three are co-equal but the father is greater than the son
The father is a spirit but The spirit of Christ is referenced as being in old and New Testament
And let nor forget the their person the Holy Spirit
So that’s three distinct spirits
God is One, settle on that and your good. God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One, settle on that. Three distinct persons, one God.

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@divegeester said
Here come the blocks of faith speak.
This "faith speak" phrasing is how you plan on refuting things said you by simply characterizing them as somehow less than without addressing the points directly as you seem to do with quite a regularity, attempting to turn this into a personality discussion versus the topic at hand?

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@kellyjay said
God is One, settle on that and your good. God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One, settle on that. Three distinct persons, one God.
Saying god is one person and then saying god is three persons and then denying those persons are different people is risible nonsense.

It’s incomprehensible pagan crap like this and eternal torture which is these days keeping people out of the kingdom.

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@kellyjay said
This "faith speak" phrasing is how you plan on refuting things said you by simply characterizing them as somehow less than without addressing the points directly as you seem to do with quite a regularity, attempting to turn this into a personality discussion versus the topic at hand?
No, “blocks of faith speak” is a phrase invented recently by FMF to describe your waffly fur-balls of text which are nothing more than you smoothing of the edges of a sharply erroneous dogma with a bunch of word-strings you might hear from an evangelical pastor who has been asked a tough question by a newcomer to the church. Your third post down on this page is a class example.

It just doesn’t wash in here.

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@divegeester said
Saying god is one person and then saying god is three persons and then denying those persons are different people is risible nonsense.

It’s incomprehensible pagan crap like this and eternal torture which is these days keeping people out of the kingdom.
No one denies they are not three different people; for crying out loud, do you read the things said to you before you react?

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@divegeester said
No, “blocks of faith speak” is a phrase invented recently by FMF to describe your waffly fur-balls of text which are nothing more than you smoothing of the edges of a sharply erroneous dogma with a bunch of word-strings you might hear from an evangelical pastor who has been asked a tough question by a newcomer to the church. Your third post down on this page is a class example.

It just doesn’t wash in here.
So it is just a way to degrade without addressing the specifics, glad that was cleared up early.

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@kellyjay said
No one denies they are not three different people; for crying out loud, do you read the things said to you before you react?
Sonship does.

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@divegeester said
Sonship does.
He can speak for himself I do for me and you do for you.

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@kellyjay said
No one denies they are not three different people; for crying out loud, do you read the things said to you before you react?
Ok so let’s get this straight

They ARE three different people…but they are the same person?

Or they are three different people on a board of governance?

Jesus is one person but the father is greater than him, so they are not do-equal?

Try to explain it without a load of faith speak.

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@kellyjay said
He can speak for himself I do for me and you do for you.
You said “no one is saying they are not separate people”

You are mistaken, sonship believes that. So no it is YOU who are speaking for him.

Right?

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@divegeester said
Ok so let’s get this straight

They ARE three different people…but they are the same person?

Or they are three different people on a board of governance?

Jesus is one person but the father is greater than him, so they are not do-equal?

Try to explain it without a load of faith speak.
NO AGAIN, stop changing the words to fit what you think is being said and read what is said. Three different people, one being, One God, God is One. Who besides you is saying co-equal, they are equal in that they are God, they are not equal in governance the Father is greater.

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