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25 May 18
25 May 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyThat is incorrect reasoning. The question of God's existence is a difficult one. Reasonable people will get different answers.
The atheist claim that God does not exist, is also an indictment on every single believer that ever witnessed, in the history of mankind. Every witness--according to atheists--is either dumb, ignorant, gullible, or dishonest.
There is no reason to disparage a sincere, intelligent truth seeker, theist or not.
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyI was hoping that that was the case. That and your silly attempts to defend it. Never can tell on this forum though.
It was intended to be silly.
26 May 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemIf the atheist claim is true, then what of the believers who passionately insist otherwise? Is there something other than "dumb, ignorant, gullible, or dishonest" that could describe them? I'm all ears! 😀
That is incorrect reasoning. The question of God's existence is a difficult one. Reasonable people will get different answers.
There is no reason to disparage a sincere, intelligent truth seeker, theist or not.
26 May 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyI already gave some alternate words to describe them.
If the atheist claim is true, then what of the believers who passionately insist otherwise? Is there something other than "dumb, ignorant, gullible, or dishonest" that could describe them? I'm all ears! 😀
Even the smartest people among us get hard questions wrong sometimes. Even the best of us have limits.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @js357Not what I said. I said you need an open heart and mind to see it. I didn’t say everyone with an open heart and mind will see it. Do you understand the difference?
Oh, and if you don’t see it, that only shows your mind and heart are closed.
Pardon me, but you seem to be a wee bit hoisted on your petard there.
26 May 18
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemWhat. The "sincere, intelligent" thing? But if a "sincere, intelligent" theist is wrong, then they belong in the ignorant bucket. Not meant derogatorily either. Correct?
I already gave some alternate words to describe them.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009What other reasons for not seeing it do you have in mind?
Not what I said. I said you need an open heart and mind to see it. I didn’t say everyone with an open heart and mind will see it. Do you understand the difference?
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeLinguistic trolling now? There’s a new tool in your trolling toolbox. That had to be an expensive one. Was it on sale at the hardware store?
Thread update:
Talk has shifted from 'overwhelming' evidence of the Resurrection of Christ to 'plenty' of evidence. By next Wednesday we will arrive at 'some' evidence and by the following Friday at 'my mate Dave heard it down the pub from his mate Wally.'
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @js357I think one has to be drawn to Jesus by God the Father but am not sure one would even look at the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ without that happening.
What other reasons for not seeing it do you have in mind?
Atheists on here are a good example of that. They refuse to spend 10 minutes looking at the evidence for Christ’s Resurrection but feel qualified to spend 10 hours arguing that it’s not convincing.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke“I humbly add I have spent more than 42 years as a defense trial lawyer appearing in many parts of the world and am still in active practice. I have been fortunate to secure a number of successes in jury trials and I say unequivocally the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.”
Thread update:
Talk has shifted from 'overwhelming' evidence of the Resurrection of Christ to 'plenty' of evidence. By next Wednesday we will arrive at 'some' evidence and by the following Friday at 'my mate Dave heard it down the pub from his mate Wally.'
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I've read a lot on this over the years, and it's easy to find a lot more via google, but if you have a link you feel covers the basics, I'll give it a go.
I think one has to be drawn to Jesus by God the Father but am not sure one would even look at the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ without that happening.
Atheists on here are a good example of that. They refuse to spend 10 minutes looking at the evidence for Christ’s Resurrection but feel qualified to spend 10 hours arguing that it’s not convincing.
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @js357Not aware of one website that covers everything but this is a good 30,000-foot view of *some* of the evidence.
I've read a lot on this over the years, and it's easy to find a lot more via google, but if you have a link you feel covers the basics, I'll give it a go.
https://lifeteen.com/blog/15-logical-reasons-to-believe-in-the-resurrection/
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26 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Thanks.
Not aware of one website that covers everything but this is a good 30,000-foot view of *some* of the evidence.
https://lifeteen.com/blog/15-logical-reasons-to-believe-in-the-resurrection/