Spirituality
05 Jan 23
07 Jan 23
@divegeester saidIt is meaningless to address anyone who cares nothing for truth, instead takes great
I understand that you don’t want to address my post.
No problem.
delight in their lies over the truth, which sir are you.
@kellyjay saidWhat is it you think he has "lied" about? If he has misstated your belief, why not just clear it up by stating what your belief is? Ironically, it is you who is behaving as if - in this instance - you care nothing for the truth of what is being discussed.
It is meaningless to address anyone who cares nothing for truth, instead takes great
delight in their lies over the truth, which sir are you.
07 Jan 23
@kellyjay saidI think this is just an excuse by you to avoid addressing the point KellyJay.
It is meaningless to address anyone who cares nothing for truth, instead takes great
delight in their lies over the truth, which sir are you.
Telling me I “delight in lies over truth” is itself a blatant lie.
@divegeester saidIf you cared about the truth, as soon as you knew you were saying something
I think this is just an excuse by you to avoid addressing the point KellyJay.
Telling me I “delight in lies over truth” is itself a blatant lie.
untrue, even if by mistake you'd corrected it by admitting the error, or clarifying
your thoughts seeing they were not correct as you stated them, and moving on,
not you instead, you double down! It isn't a lie when I told you, you claimed I was
saying things I did not, and you refused to own that, that makes you an
unrepentant liar!
Admitting it and moving on is the decent thing to do, do you have it in you to own
your errors or not? Christ tells us if we have wronged another fix that before we
leave our gifts at the alter, you instead spit on the others as you take pleasure in
going after them, trying to make them jump through hoops for you to even admit
you wronged them, and this is Christianity to you?
@kellyjay saidRather than pretending you have been harmed in any way, and if you think he has misstated your belief, why not just clear up the whole thing by stating what your belief is?
If you cared about the truth, as soon as you knew you were saying something
untrue, even if by mistake you'd corrected it by admitting the error, or clarifying
your thoughts seeing they were not correct, and moving on, not you instead, you
double down! It isn't a lie when I told you, you claimed I was saying things I did
not, and you refused to own that, that makes you a ...[text shortened]... ke them jump through hoops for you to even admit
you wronged them, and this is Christianity to you?
He does not think he has "lied" or "wronged" you ~ and, frankly speaking, you are not making a very convincing case that he has ~ so why are you holding out for an apology?
@kellyjay saidI have admitted that I got your belief wrong about the bible being the inerrant, complete and exclusive word of God.
If you cared about the truth, as soon as you knew you were saying something
untrue, even if by mistake you'd corrected it by admitting the error, or clarifying
your thoughts seeing they were not correct as you stated them, and moving on,
not you instead, you double down! It isn't a lie when I told you, you claimed I was
saying things I did not, and you refused to own tha ...[text shortened]... ke them jump through hoops for you to even admit
you wronged them, and this is Christianity to you?
I have acknowledged that I got it wrong and that you don’t in fact believe that. I’ve also apologised and I am moving on.
Why don’t you?
@divegeester saidOutstanding, and the fact you were broadcasting it as if were true?
I have admitted that I got your belief wrong about the bible being the inerrant, complete and exclusive word of God.
I have acknowledged that I got it wrong and that you don’t in fact believe that. I’ve also apologised and I am moving on.
Why don’t you?
@divegeester saidYou should know what you did wrong was not getting my beliefs properly pegged correctly, it was lying that they were my beliefs without my saying so! You took it upon yourself to make claims you have no right to, as I pointed out to you, I will defend anything I say in the context I say it.
I have admitted that I got your belief wrong about the bible being the inerrant, complete and exclusive word of God.
I have acknowledged that I got it wrong and that you don’t in fact believe that. I’ve also apologised and I am moving on.
Why don’t you?
07 Jan 23
@kellyjay saidAre you being ironic here?
You should know what you did wrong was not getting my beliefs properly pegged correctly, it was lying that they were my beliefs without my saying so! You took it upon yourself to make claims you have no right to, as I pointed out to you, I will defend anything I say in the context I say it.
07 Jan 23
@kellyjay saidI haven’t talked about “your beliefs” in this thread.
You should know what you did wrong was not getting my beliefs properly pegged correctly, it was lying that they were my beliefs without my saying so! You took it upon yourself to make claims you have no right to, as I pointed out to you, I will defend anything I say in the context I say it.
You have made some accusations about me which I demonstrated were incorrect and you’ve been contorting yourself into this ridiculous shape ever since.
@divegeester saidRead your statements and your apology, you can not tell me you got it wrong unless you know what is right! So saying that you were sure what my beliefs were is claiming knowledge you didn’t possess back then, then in your so called apology you are sorry that you got it wrong, as if now you some how know my beliefs are now as you didn’t then.
I haven’t talked about “your beliefs” in this thread.
You have made some accusations about me which I demonstrated were incorrect and you’ve been contorting yourself into this ridiculous shape ever since.
You still don’t know! So your sorry for what? You got something wrong who cares about that we all do that now and then. Speaking for me while I tell you to stop, you are misrepresenting me, that is the issue not my feelings on any point of doctrine. You should allow others to speak for themselves you don’t get make things up and make claims for another.
You bringing up my name in threads I was not in to talk about me with this topic was simply childish, and totally wrong at every level. Does Jesus Christ actually have any impact on your behavior at any level towards others?
@kellyjay saidKellyJay, you spent the whole of 2022 misstating and misremembering my beliefs - on many occasions deliberately, without a doubt - so that you could address the strawman rather than what I'd actually posted. So all this sanctimony from you is a bit rich.
Read your statements and your apology, you can not tell me you got it wrong unless you know what is right! So saying that you were sure what my beliefs were is claiming knowledge you didn’t possess back then, then in your so called apology you are sorry that you got it wrong, as if now you some how know my beliefs are now as you didn’t then.
You still don’t know! So your ...[text shortened]... very level. Does Jesus Christ actually have any impact on your behavior at any level towards others?
@kellyjay saidWhat in my post was not true?
Outstanding, and the fact you were broadcasting it as if were true?