Attrocities of 'Christianity', history of the Churches

Originally posted by galveston75
Just got this info from this event that just happened here in the States last month:

William George Kalapach is charged with aggravated assault and other
offenses.
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>> A Monroe County man this morning fired a handgun at five Jehovah's Witnesses
who he said took too long to leave his Price Township property, according to
state police.
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While this dude gets what he deserves did anyone actually get shot?
Honestly though if dude said get off my property or I'll get a gun I would bounce out like dude said. My biggest complaint is you guys would always come at the worst possible time. Like when I'm taking a **** or watching a good movie. Actually too why do the J-dubs from the Kingdom hall down the street never come to this complex? maybe their American J-dubs so there flakes LOL I wish they would come if I was home I would chat with em but if my wife was home she'd tell em to get bent!!!


Manny

Originally posted by menace71
While this dude gets what he deserves did anyone actually get shot?
Honestly though if dude said get off my property or I'll get a gun I would bounce out like dude said. My biggest complaint is you guys would always come at the worst possible time. Like when I'm taking a **** or watching a good movie. Actually too why do the J-dubs from the Kingdom hall d ...[text shortened]... was home I would chat with em but if my wife was home she'd tell em to get bent!!!


Manny

No one got shot thank goodness but a stray shot could have hit anyone friend or foe. And from what I can tell they did leave his property pretty fast as I know I would have.
Well what you need to do the next time they come around just explain that it's usually not a good time if it is around the same time they come and make an appointment with them. They will be flexable and meet you whenever they can.
And if there not coming from the Hall down the street from you which one are they coming from?

Originally posted by galveston75
No one got shot thank goodness but a stray shot could have hit anyone friend or foe. And from what I can tell they did leave his property pretty fast as I know I would have.
Well what you need to do the next time they come around just explain that it's usually not a good time if it is around the same time they come and make an appointment with them. Th ...[text shortened]... And if there not coming from the Hall down the street from you which one are they coming from?

I'm saying they never come here. The Kingdom Hall is literal 1/4 mile from my complex. I was joking too saying they must be American J-dubs and so that makes them flaky LOL (RC says American Christians are plastic and armchair and ect...)

All kidding aside their Human beings and I would not want to see any harm done to any J-dubs in my hood.



Manny

Originally posted by KellyJay
So I'll ask you again, were they Christian in your opinion?
Kelly

A great question; good luck getting a straight answer though LOL.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have stated continuously and consistently a Christian is someone who follows the teachings of the Christ. Why were they not removed from office? why did the man remain and elder after the event? was he deemed still to be a Christian or will you publicly admit that there are counterfeit Christians within the churches?

Why don't you just answer his question. Do YOU consider them Christians or not?

Originally posted by divegeester
A great question; good luck getting a straight answer though LOL.

i dont consider anyone who fails to preach the Goodnews of Gods Kingdom a Christian, have i not stated as much? consistently?

Originally posted by divegeester
Why don't you just answer his question. Do YOU consider them Christians or not?

When you start to answer the questions we have asked of you, a reminder, if you are
already saved as you presumptuously assert, why did Christ state that one would need
endurance, for if you are saved already, logically there would be no need of
endurance, so either you are talking pants, or Christ didn't know what he was saying.
Why dont you answer the question?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I disagree with you if you think simply following Christ's teachings is enough.
I agree those people whose hearts are not right even if they hold position in
a church adds nothing to them, it is only a right relationship with God in Christ
that one will find God's grace and mercy. You don't even have to be doing those
really bad things to be false, simp ...[text shortened]... good works is a road that will cause one to fall short on if that is all your
doing.
Kelly

nope, being a Christian is a responsibility, you are an ambassador substituting for
Christ for goodness sake, simply saying that i have been saved by Gods grace is not
enough, its a cop out in fact, a myth perpetrated by armchair Christians unwilling to do
anything to help others, indeed, the whole 'I am saved', is an utter and complete piece
of nonsense. Christianity was never about self, it was about self sacrifice, that is
putting others ahead of ourselves, the 'I am saved through grace', nonsense
emphasises what, the need to help others, or personal salvation? I think we both
know the answer to that. Faith is redundant if it is not accompanied by works.

(2 Corinthians 5:20) . . .We are therefore ambassadors substituting for Christ, as
though God were making entreaty through us. As substitutes for Christ we beg:
“Become reconciled to God.. . .

(James 2:14) . . .Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith
but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i dont consider anyone who fails to preach the Goodnews of Gods Kingdom a Christian, have i not stated as much? consistently?

I don't consider anyone who denies the deity of Christ a Christian, have I not stated as much?

Your point is totally based on subjective opinion and I hardly think the JW organisation comes from a position of strength when attacking other sects or religions.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
When you start to answer the questions we have asked of you, a reminder, if you are
already saved as you presumptuously assert, why did Christ state that one would need
endurance, for if you are saved already, logically there would be no need of
endurance, so either you are talking pants, or Christ didn't know what he was saying.
Why dont you answer the question?

If you are not saved you CANNOT have a saviour, are you blind to this simple obvious logic?

Originally posted by divegeester
If you are not saved you CANNOT have a saviour, are you blind to this simple obvious logic?

you have FAILED to answer the question,

here it is for a fifth time,

If you are saved already why would there be need of endurance as the Christ evidently stated.

Originally posted by divegeester
I don't consider anyone who denies the deity of Christ a Christian, have I not stated as much?

Your point is totally based on subjective opinion and I hardly think the JW organisation comes from a position of strength when attacking other sects or religions.

a position of strength, you and the other, i hesitate to use the word 'Christians', cannot name one atrocity we have been engaged in, can you? can the same be said of Methodists, baptists, Anglicans, Catholics, the protestant denominations, nope? so either name the atrocity or eat your words, AGAIN.

Originally posted by divegeester
If you are not saved you CANNOT have a saviour, are you blind to this simple obvious logic?

I just find all this word play and how you guys have become such masters of playing around with words to make it fit your beliefs, intertaining if nothing else.
It never ceases to amaze me how twisted the truth or non truth facts become so hazy and unclear and can make the unwise spiritual person doubt and eventually have no idea how deep they've been burried in false teachings even to the point of not only denying the truth but full on promoting spiritual lies.
Satan is the absolute master of this and it's not supprizing that his unknowing followers do the same.
"If you are not saved you CANNOT have a saviour !!!!!" LOL, lol, lol. Thats a classic.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you have FAILED to answer the question,

here it is for a fifth time,

If you are saved already why would there be need of endurance as the Christ evidently stated.

There are lots of reasons for endurance, discipline, demonstration of faith, reward in heaven etc

Originally posted by divegeester
There are lots of reasons for endurance, discipline, demonstration of faith, reward in heaven etc

but you are saved already, no matter what you do, you are saved, is that not the case?