Aug 6th : Are nuclear weapons less moral...

@secondson said
Sorry. Didn't mean to go off track.

In my opinion it's not a question of the kind or type of weapon used to kill. It's a question of whether or not the killing is justifiable.

Mass killing is never justifiable.

@secondson said
Sorry. Didn't mean to go off track.

In my opinion it's not a question of the kind or type of weapon used to kill. It's a question of whether or not the killing is justifiable.

So the use of any method of weaponry is morally acceptable to kill with, as long as the reason to kill is justified? Ok.

But would it have been morally better for the US to invade japan and use conventional weapons to subdue it rather than nuclear?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Mass killing is never justifiable.

What is “mass killing” in context of this assertion?

@divegeester said
What is “mass killing” in context of this assertion?

"On August 6, 1945, the United States becomes the first and only nation to use atomic weaponry during wartime when it drops an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima."

@ghost-of-a-duke said
"On August 6, 1945, the United States becomes the first and only nation to use atomic weaponry during wartime when it drops an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima."

It’s ok if you don’t want to answer my question.

@divegeester said
It’s ok if you don’t want to answer my question.

I thought I did. My reply was in relation to the OP.


Recap:

1. Thread is concerning nuclear weapons.
2. Secondson posts - 'In my opinion, it's not a question of the kind or type of weapon used to kill. It's a question of whether or not the killing is justifiable.'
3. I respond. - 'Mass killing is never justifiable.'

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I thought I did. My reply was in relation to the OP.
Recap:
1. Thread is concerning nuclear weapons.
2. Secondson posts - 'In my opinion, it's not a question of the kind or type of weapon used to kill. It's a question of whether or not the killing is justifiable.'
3. I respond. - 'Mass killing is never justifiable.'

Why are you pretending you have answered my question about how you define “mass killing”?

@divegeester said
What is “mass killing” in context of this assertion?

Here you go Ghost of a Duke.

@divegeester said
Here you go Ghost of a Duke.

What happened to you dude?

You use to be interesting. (Always pedantic, but interesting all the same).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
What happened to you dude?

You use to be interesting. (Always pedantic, but interesting all the same).

You don’t have to answer my question if you don’t want to.

And if you like you can barb your deflection with an insult.

@divegeester said
You don’t have to answer my question if you don’t want to.

And if you like you can barb your deflection with an insult.

Ok, I'll try and think of a good one.

In the meantime, multiple deaths as a result of a nuclear bomb is something I would qualify as a 'mass killing' and something totally in keeping with this particular thread.

What else did you think I meant?!

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Mass killing is never justifiable.

Mass murder, yes, but can you think of any reason when killing in-mass would be justifiable?

@divegeester said
But would it have been morally better for the US to invade japan and use conventional weapons to subdue it rather than nuclear?

At what cost? Millions of more lives?

I'm glad I don't make the war game rules. Somebody made the decision to drop the bombs and justified it before I was even born. I can't imagine what it must be like to be in that position.

At best I can only imagine being in the position of flying the bomber and obeying orders. I think I would have conscientiously objected to that particular mission. They'd have to find someone else to do it.

@secondson said
Mass murder, yes, but can you think of any reason when killing in-mass would be justifiable?

I honestly can't.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
"On August 6, 1945, the United States becomes the first and only nation to use atomic weaponry during wartime when it drops an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima."

Thanks for the history lesson. 😏

Since then it seems no one else has had a justifiable reason to do it again. But just in case they stockpiled enough nuclear bombs to incinerate the earth ten times over.

It's insane.