Originally posted by duecerI only stated Gods commandment for theneed to be baptized for salvation just in case somebody hasnt read the Bible .advocate? maybe but that doesnt change what the Word says.
In that case maybe you shouldn't advocate the position that baptism is a neccessary part of salvation
I grew up in the United Methodist Churchm but joined a Lutheran one about 4 years ago (Mo. Synod). I made a comment once about communion articles being symbols of Christ's love for us, and boy that was a mistake! No, I wasn't condemned or anything--they're wonderful people. I just didn't know how strongly Lutheran's felt about the subject of communion--that the wafers and wine are not symbols at all, but the REAL things. Not exactly like the Catholic's trans-substantiation--more con-substantiation. Along the way, I also learned that Lutheran's DO believe salvation requires baptism (or, as with the thief on the cross, etc.) divine intervention. And that when Peter was told by Jesus that he would be the rock on which He built His church, it meant all of us (Christians). Something to do with Office of the Keys, "loosing on earth what will be loosed in heaven", and other things I do not understand. In short, I find I believe none of those 3 doctrines. Guess I'm still clinging to the UMC paradigm. But do I feel guilty or that I'm a "bad Lutheran"? Nope. Just a free-thinking one.
Originally posted by PinkFloydit sounds like your babbling is a mix of everything you havnt learned all your life😕
I grew up in the United Methodist Churchm but joined a Lutheran one about 4 years ago (Mo. Synod). I made a comment once about communion articles being symbols of Christ's love for us, and boy that was a mistake! No, I wasn't condemned or anything--they're wonderful people. I just didn't know how strongly Lutheran's felt about the subject of communion- ...[text shortened]... ut do I feel guilty or that I'm a "bad Lutheran"? Nope. Just a free-thinking one.
Originally posted by PinkFloydin regards to communion, does that then mean that they are cannibals?
I grew up in the United Methodist Churchm but joined a Lutheran one about 4 years ago (Mo. Synod). I made a comment once about communion articles being symbols of Christ's love for us, and boy that was a mistake! No, I wasn't condemned or anything--they're wonderful people. I just didn't know how strongly Lutheran's felt about the subject of communion- ...[text shortened]... ut do I feel guilty or that I'm a "bad Lutheran"? Nope. Just a free-thinking one.
Originally posted by duecerI was interested in this one - I think it is still the theology of the mainstream Catholic church that the wafer and wine actually become the flesh and blood of Christ, while retaining the properties of the original substances. Cool.
in regards to communion, does that then mean that they are cannibals?
Originally posted by geniusborn catholic
What are you opinions on child baptism and believers baptism? What about baptism in general? As a Christian do you believe you must be baptised to get to heaven?
raised catholic
stay catholic
die catholic
if i have no intrest in being a catholic i won't care if i was baptised or not
if i am proud to be catholic i will be glad that i was baptised
Originally posted by duecerMethodism is a group of historically related denominations of Protestant Christianity. The Methodist movement traces its origin to the evangelistic teaching of John Wesley. It originated in 18th century Britain, and through vigorous missionary .... BLAH BLAH BLAH ...Anglican liturgy and traditi... In 2006 Methodism claimed some seventy-five million members worldwide.
I am Methodist, and the cool thing about that, is that we are not a Creedal orginization. You do not have to believe everything that the Methodist church believes, only seek to live in peace with your fellow human beings.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THERE ARE 75 MILLION IDIOTS THAT PUT THEIR FAITH IN a man named JOHN WESLEY according to the encylopedia
Originally posted by epic0002I suspect that most of them put their faith only in Jesus Christ. I'd be surpised if most Methodists know much about John Wesley.
, CAN YOU BELIEVE THERE ARE 75 MILLION IDIOTS THAT PUT THEIR FAITH IN a man named JOHN WESLEY according to the encylopedia
Originally posted by gaychessplayerdo you think they would think differently about being called Methodist or practicing religion the way Jon Wesley thought it should be practiced if they knew a simple man that didnt like exactly what God was saying started his own church?
I suspect that most of them put their faith only in Jesus Christ. I'd be surpised if most Methodists know much about John Wesley.
Originally posted by epic0002They sound a LOT more advanced then your obsolete thinkings and beliefs.
Methodism is a group of historically related denominations of Protestant Christianity. The Methodist movement traces its origin to the evangelistic teaching of John Wesley. It originated in 18th century Britain, and through vigorous missionary .... BLAH BLAH BLAH ...Anglican liturgy and traditi... In 2006 Methodism claimed some seventy-five million members ...[text shortened]... E 75 MILLION IDIOTS THAT PUT THEIR FAITH IN a man named JOHN WESLEY according to the encylopedia