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27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipquote:6.
Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8
Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9
Good one. I don't know. It could be the result of a scribal copying error.
Is there a [b]major tenet of the Christian faith that hinges on the discrepancy ?[/b]
Good one. I don't know. It could be the result of a scribal copying error.
Is there a major tenet of the Christian faith that hinges on the discrepancy ?
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Is "the Bible is the inerrant Word of God" a major tenet of the Christian faith?
Originally posted by @js357
Is "the Bible is the inerrant Word of God" a major tenet of the Christian faith?
There may be an ultra-conservative school of thought of Inerrancy which would deny copyist errors among the thousands of extent copies of the OT and NT Scriptures. I have never been of that opinion.
I learned the subject from a book "A General Introduction to the Bible" by Giesler and Nix, which I would still recommend to anyone today.
Discussion of various positions on Innerancy, Insperation, Infallibility were discussed in detail. I would now have to return to that volume to see some things.
I do remember that it convincingly, to me, argued against two extremes on either side of the debate - far left and far right, ie. extreme liberal opinions verses extreme conservative schools.
I have never had a major problem with the recognition that among the thousands of copies of biblical texts from antiquity it is rather obvious that some discrepancies in copying are noticed.
Not a large percent of them are of any consequence to major themes of the Bible.
Did you watch the debate between Dr. Bart Erhman and Dr. James White on this ? Its worth your while IMO.
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27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @josephwI didn't say the genesis accoun wasn't literal, I said the two trees weren't.
Why are you such a disingenuous cad?
You're the one that said he doesn't believe the genesis account of creation is literal. Answer your own question first. Why do you think it's not literal?
So are you going to respond to my question or keep dodging?
27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @josephwOoh, I'm scared 😛
If the shoe fits, wear it. If you continue to expose yourself as an imposter publicly in this forum I will continue to call you out for your duplicity.
What duplicity are you on about?
There's another opportunity for you to answer something other than my on topic question.
27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @josephwAre you ever going to tell me if you think the entire bible is literal or just some of it? 😉
What else do you disbelieve about the genesis account of creation?
Do you believe any of it? Or just what fits in with your own interpretation and world view?
I'm beginning to wonder just how much of the Bible you believe is literally true or not. How about the tree of life? Is that just a metaphor for something else? Pray tell just what you think tha ...[text shortened]... g of the account if it's not literal. Try to convince me it's not literal. Start with verse one.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterI'm thinking how did Adam and Eve eat the fruit if it wasn't literally a fruit? How do you figuratively eat something? How do you explain our sinful nature if the fall of man was not literal?
I presume most Christians in here believe that the teaching of the infallibility of the bible, also means the literalness of it? Maybe I'm wrong.
Most of the biblical related arguments I have with Christians in this forum are driven by the above premise. For example:
- The garden of Eden, the tree, the fruit. Is is all literal?
- Eternal sufferi ...[text shortened]... d and evil, with REAL juicy fruit, and if you eat it you die. REALLY??
Where is it now then?
27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @chaney3This is exactly what this thread is about chaney3. Yes it's potentially a can of worms which seems to be why NONE of the Christians here seem to want to discuss it.
If the "apple tree" was false, then maybe Jesus was false too.
Who decides?
Who says what is real or not?
But to be clear for your benefit here; this is NOT about the truth of the bible and it's not about contradictions, it's just about what is literal and what is not.
27 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou are wrong.
This is exactly what this thread is about chaney3. Yes it's potentially a can of worms which seems to be why NONE of the Christians here seem to want to discuss it.
But to be clear for your benefit here; this is NOT about the truth of the bible and it's not about contradictions, it's just about what is literal and what is not.
You are delicately trying to evade Bible truth, contradiction and literalism.
The truth is.....if Jonah didn't survive in a fish, then the Noah story could be made up. Jesus could be made up.
You either believe ALL of it, or NONE of it!!