Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

@divegeester

It is sad that you are such a lonely isolated cowardly type getting along with no others that open up a Bible in faith.

An cautious isolated Unitarian Lone Ranger who tried to solicit an Atheist as your sidekick, your faithful Tanto. Very sad.

So why are you so reluctant to tell us where you have ever met and with whom ?? Get rejected ?

@divegeester

Please feel free to start a thread on the topic of your suspicions about me sonship.

Bringing Divbegeeser's Unitarianism out of the shadows of ambiguity.

Unitarianism is the belief that God exists in one person, not three. It is a denial of the doctrine of the Trinity as well as the full divinity of Jesus. Therefore, it is not Christian. There are several groups that fall under this umbrella: Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphianism, The Way International, etc. Another term for this type of belief is called Monarchianism.

The General Convention of the Unitarian Universalists formulated the five principles of the Universalist Faith in 1899.

The Universal Fatherhood of God
The spiritual authority and leadership of His Son Jesus Christ
The trustworthiness of the Bible as containing a revelation from God
The certainty of just retribution for sin
The final harmony of all souls with God
Additional beliefs generally held by Unitarian Universalists are:

Salvation is by grace through faith and not by works in any way.
Jesus became the Son of God at His baptism.
The Holy Spirit is not a person, does not have a will, etc.
There now is and will be rewards and punishments according to one's actions but this does not consist of the traditional doctrine of hell.
Human reason and experience should be the final authority in determining spiritual truth.

Sonship trying to bury the evidence 😆

@divegeester said
Your habit of quoting of scripture and using it as a weapon against other posters who don’t find you particularly impressive, is well documented.

Maybe you would like to comment on the OP...?

@divegeester said
I have fellowship on a regular basis, and quite a lot more recently.

@secondson said
Why can't you address the points I made in my post? After all, the post of yours above is virtually identical to your OP.

@secondson said
Is that so? That's a good thing.

Sonship here is a copy/paste from the statement of beliefs from the website of your own church sect:

”In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God; that there is a unique Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit; that Jesus Christ is the Son of God incarnated to be a man; that Christ died on the cross for our sins, shedding His blood for our redemption; that on the third day He was bodily raised from the dead; that He has been exalted to the right hand of God and made the Lord of all; and that He is coming again for His own and to set up His kingdom on earth.”

https://www.localchurches.org/beliefs/salvation/

I am calling out this statement by your church claiming that salvation is linked to believing in the trinity doctrine as being gross error.

sonship if you think I’m wrong please say so...

@secondson said
Perhaps you would be willing to share your new found church's statement of faith and tell us what parts of it you agree or disagree with.

@divegeester

I have fellowship on a regular basis, and quite a lot more recently.

@divegeester

I already told you how I thought you were wrongly exploiting that paragraph. And I already told you how you ignore other things written in the book which counter balance the honest reader so as not to misunderstand the hope, emphasis, and practice of local churches in leading people to Christ.

If you plug your ears up and shut tight your eyes I should have to repeat what I wrote many times again.

You can plug your ears and shut tight your eyes and insist that you be answered for the rest of your life if you think it proves something.

You said you have no desire to have fellowship with a cult which you have already decided any of the local churches are. So YOU have excluded yourself from wanting fellowship and cut us off. You were not refused to partake of fellowship.

You put yourself outside of the possibility of it. That is hypocritical, divisive, sectarian.

I think you have repeated that history where ever you find any groups.

I suppose you'll continue to ignore the clear writing of that publication under Concerning Salvation .

In the section entitled Concerning Salvation we read these specific words -

In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.

Once a person has been saved, he may have both the assurance of salvation and the security of salvation. Once we are saved, we are saved forever.

Sounds like Romans 10:9,10 to me.

”In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.

"Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. "

Divegeester,
You have fellowship more often now on a regular basis?

Why not answer this simple request? That is for THEIR practical statement of their standing in that congregation.

Can we see their Statement of Faith please?

Sonship, you should understand that the point of this thread is to demonstrate that you won’t answer the question in the OP.

If I were you, behaving as you are in this thread, I would be ashamed that I was embarrassed either of what I believe, or of what my church believes. Because it is clearly one or the other.