@divegeester saidThere's a furtive reply!!
Simple question Sonship, do you agree with the statement of belief from your church’s website which I’ve posted in my OP?
So when you have a book called "The Beliefs and Practices of the Local Churches" and you have TWO statements -
1.)
Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God;
Somewhere in the book under Beliefs
And
2.)
In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.
Once a person has been saved, he may have both the assurance of salvation and the security of salvation. Once we are saved, we are saved forever.
Under Concerning Salvation I think the place to look for specific teaching on being saved in Concerning Salvation is very important for specifics on Salvation.
@sonship saidFMF and divegeester are so wrapped up with themselves they are unable to have a rational objective discourse except to further the agenda of naysaying anything a Bible believing Christian has to say.
You see Divegeester has tried to make assurance of salvation a mental issue of whether someone agrees with Jack or not.
Notice the phrase "living contact".
You can have disagreements with other Christians about the Trinity yet have a living contact with the living Person of Christ.
So my replies have been cautious and qualified in the spirit of what was writt ...[text shortened]... ongs to hear me say is - "Disagree with sonship ??? You burn in hell."
A strange fancy indeed.
They ignore the clear wording of scripture. They exemplify the proverbial straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Their minds only become truly engaged when asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
... Are you suggesting that a Protestant can't have small disagreements with the phrasing of something about the Trinity and his church?
Why can't you accept the fact that SS has a nuanced view on this, and isn't committed to the position you suggest he is committed to..?
How is this even the basis for a new thread?
29 Nov 18
@secondson saidWould you like to comment on the content of the OP.
FMF and divegeester are so wrapped up with themselves they are unable to have a rational objective discourse except to further the agenda of naysaying anything a Bible believing Christian has to say.
They ignore the clear wording of scripture. They exemplify the proverbial straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. Their minds only become truly engaged when asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
@philokalia saidWho and which post are you replying to?
... Are you suggesting that a Protestant can't have small disagreements with the phrasing of something about the Trinity and his church?
Why can't you accept the fact that SS has a nuanced view on this, and isn't committed to the position you suggest he is committed to..?
How is this even the basis for a new thread?
29 Nov 18
@sonship saidSonship, I have a very simple question for you.
So when you have a book called "The Beliefs and Practices of the Local Churches" and you have TWO statements -
1.)
[quote] Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God; [/qu ...[text shortened]... eaching on being saved in Concerning Salvation is very important for specifics on Salvation.
Do you agree with your church’s statement of belief in regards to salvation depending on a belief in the Trinity?
Why won’t you say that you do?
It’s so weird.
@divegeester saidAnd the point is?
Would you like to comment on the point of the OP.
Is it that God is or isn't three Devine personalities in one, or is the point being if you don't believe it you'll go to hell?
Which is your big gripe? Or is it both?
29 Nov 18
@secondson saidIt’s very clear, just read it.
And the point is?
Is it that God is or isn't three Devine personalities in one, or is the point being if you don't believe it you'll go to hell?
Which is your big gripe? Or is it both?
@philokalia saidAs for this issue, the piece in the OP suggests that a person's "salvation" is riding on it. You'd say that such a thing is a "small disagreement"?
... Are you suggesting that a Protestant can't have small disagreements with the phrasing of something about the Trinity and his church?
@divegeester saidI wouldn't blame sonship for not answering you.
Sonship, I have a very simple question for you.
Do you agree with your church’s statement of belief in regards to salvation depending on a belief in the Trinity?
Why won’t you say that you do?
It’s so weird.
You gripe too much. Must be frustrated about something.
@secondson saidYour allegiance to sonship’s furtiveness is noted.
I wouldn't blame sonship for not answering you.
You gripe too much. Must be frustrated about something.
@secondson saidWhat about the content of this thread's OP?
FMF and divegeester are so wrapped up with themselves they are unable to have a rational objective discourse except to further the agenda of naysaying anything a Bible believing Christian has to say.