Calling out ThinkOfOne

@secondson said
Based on my knowledge of the scriptures I find complete consistency from beginning to end.

The scriptures are both the revelation of God to man and through man. All scripture is given by inspiration. The words are both inspired and preserved, and should be viewed as progressive from start to finish.

Consider Acts 1:1
The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of ...[text shortened]... do and teach as recorded by Luke in his gospel, but after His resurrection and subsequent ascension.

My foundation rests upon the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.

Your foundation rests upon a gospel preached by others.

If you believed the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, you would not believe a gospel preached by others.

John 12 
46 “I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness. 
50 “I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me.” 
48 “He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 

@thinkofone said
As I've said many a time, "I advocate for the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth".

You neither hear nor understand His words. The false gospel you follow has rendered you deaf and blind to His words.

John 8
43“Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. 44“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do t ...[text shortened]... e, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45“But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.

I don't hear you, on what authority are the things you say meaningful? This Jesus you quote is who to me, who is He to God? You call my gospel false yet you cannot tell us about why the one you are representing has any meaning or power. You are just blowing smoke! When the Prophets of old or the Apostles would speak for God they would declare who it was they were speaking for, even Jesus identified who it was that sent Him. You are a whisper in the dark accusing those who give you the time of day, you cannot even tell us who Jesus is, only that some guy named Jesus spoke and you quote only a handful of verses from those things He has said in scripture. You ashamed of who you promote that you cannot tell us about Him?

@secondson said
Do you mean deflection?

Yes.

@kellyjay said
I don't hear you, on what authority are the things you say meaningful? This Jesus you quote is who to me, who is He to God? You call my gospel false yet you cannot tell us about why the one you are representing has any meaning or power. You are just blowing smoke! When the Prophets of old or the Apostles would speak for God they would declare who it was they were speaking fo ...[text shortened]... e things He has said in scripture. You ashamed of who you promote that you cannot tell us about Him?

The words Jesus spoke when preaching His gospel while He walked the Earth have "meaning AND power" in and of themselves.

Evidently you don't think they do. Why do you think that is?

@secondson said
What is odd is your inability to understand my straight forward answer.

Do you believe God torments those who are damned in a burning fire that lasts for eternity?

It's either a yes or a no.

You seem intent on not answering it.

@secondson said
I answered your question, but you ignored it.

Was your answer yes or no?

@thinkofone said
The words Jesus spoke when preaching His gospel while He walked the Earth have "meaning AND power" in and of themselves.

Evidently you don't think they do. Why do you think that is?

I don't think you have a clue about anything you are talking about, from the scriptures you talk about, or the one you are quoting. Who is Jesus, why should I or anyone care about the one you whose words you keep quoting? If the only thing you can say is that this guy a very long time ago said some things you think are important, so what? What authority do you think you are invoking by quoting the scriptures?

@thinkofone said
The words Jesus spoke when preaching His gospel while He walked the Earth have "meaning AND power" in and of themselves.

Evidently you don't think they do. Why do you think that is?

I can tell you why the Jesus I talk about should be listened too, and I can tell you who He is, why He was sent here, and by whom. I can tell you the Jesus I worship and obey is worthy, I can tell you that the Jesus whose name I pray in, has a name above every other name.

You have not been able so say anything other than there is something magical about the words uttered by this guy you talk about, supposedly those words have both "meaning AND power" in and of the themselves. Is your Jesus a wizard, a magic user, a Jedi Knight, a Sith lord, the flying spaghetti monsters little brother what about this Jesus you are talking about makes Him worthy to be listened to?

@divegeester said
FMF is a long time friend; we have shared stories and supported each other through secular struggles and spent many hours discussing spiritual things. I have lots in common with him and enjoy his company, good humour, intelligent thinking and general approach to life, family and ethics.

You to me are an arrogant, dishonest religious blowhard who thinks he’s a spiritual tough guy. Other than that I know nothing about you.

Then it's true. Without knowing anything about other Christian posters in this forum you side with unbelievers in degrading, insulting and otherwise denouncing Christians based on your biases, prejudices and bigoted opinions.

Virtually all the Christians posting in this forum are in agreement with the basic fundamental doctrines of the faith, but you are not. In fact, you go out of your way to poke fun at the Christians posting here by aligning yourself with the naysayers and their posts.

There's no getting around it divegeester. It's no wonder you have no church family or Christian fellowship in your life. You're outside the veil of faith as demonstrated by your disgraceful and reprehensible conduct exhibited in your posts against Christians, especially when you do it with your so-called "friends".

@fmf said
Was your answer yes or no?

That question is evidence that you ignored my answer.

@thinkofone said
My foundation rests upon the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.

Your foundation rests upon a gospel preached by others.

If you believed the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, you would not believe a gospel preached by others.

John 12 
46 “I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain ...[text shortened]... eceive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 

And John 17:25?!

(Do you skip past that one? )

@thinkofone said
My foundation rests upon the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.

Your foundation rests upon a gospel preached by others.

If you believed the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, you would not believe a gospel preached by others.

John 12 
46 “I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain ...[text shortened]... eceive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 

You're quite the card ToO.

Jesus Christ is the foundation. It's clear you understand nothing about the gospel.

I'm certain you can't say what the gospel is. You just talk in circles.

@secondson said
You're quite the card ToO.

Jesus Christ is the foundation. It's clear you understand nothing about the gospel.

I'm certain you can't say what the gospel is. You just talk in circles.

Jesus Christ is the foundation. It's clear you understand nothing about the gospel.

It's clear you understand nothing about the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.

According to the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, the words Jesus spoke when preaching His gospel while He walked the Earth ARE the foundation.

My foundation rests upon the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.

Your foundation rests upon a gospel preached by others.

Why is it so difficult for you to wrap your mind around this?

Matthew 7
24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25“And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. 26“Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27“The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and great was its fall.”

@secondson said
Then it's true. Without knowing anything about other Christian posters in this forum you side with unbelievers in degrading, insulting and otherwise denouncing Christians based on your biases, prejudices and bigoted opinions.

Virtually all the Christians posting in this forum are in agreement with the basic fundamental doctrines of the faith, but you are not. In fact, yo ...[text shortened]... exhibited in your posts against Christians, especially when you do it with your so-called "friends".

I address what is posted by the individuals in this forum, I attack the beliefs and the behaviours, I don’t judge the Christian, as you do.

Actually most of the Christians in this are NOT in agreement; you do not agree with sonship on space aliens and eternal torture and nor does suzianne. Suzianne does not agree with any of you on eternal suffering. Jajk999 disagrees with all Christians here on works vs grace. However apart from Rajk999 the rest of you don’t disagree publically because you prefer the pretence of holding the old oil of brotherly alignment.

I on the other hand call it as I see it, I call you out as I see you (as you do me), and I do KellyJay and others. I’m a Christian Joseph and you call me horrible things because you don’t like me. That’s ok though, it’s your choice.

I stand by my friends, all of them. I stand by FMF because he is a good man, a good father, a good friend to his friends, a good husband and dedicated professional.

You to me are just a caustic religious blowhard on the internet who thinks they deserve my loyalty because of a mutual online claim to a religious creed. You are sadly mistaken because I don’t see in you the Christ that I see in others, so you are nothing to me.

My loyalty will always be extended to people who share the same values as me no matter what their theistic status, Jesus would have done the same, and indeed he did. He was a friend to the lost to sinners. I am one of them. I am not one of you.

@secondson said
Virtually all the Christians posting in this forum are in agreement with the basic fundamental doctrines of the faith, but you are not.

What basic fundamental doctrines of Christian faith are you and divegeester not in agreement about? Could you list them?