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07 Dec 18
Your Jesus is not my Jesus.
How much clearer do I need to be?
Clearer.
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Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins, (Rom. 3:25)
We have faith in His blood for our redemption in common?
We do not have faith in His blood for our redemption in common?
Which ?
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidSo you now retract your claim that I “have not passed from death to life”?
@divegeester
Your Jesus is not my Jesus.
How much clearer do I need to be?
Clearer.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins, (Rom. 3:25)
We have faith in His blood for our redemption in common?
We do not have faith in His blood for our redemption in common?
Which ?
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No, I mean my Jesus will not be recieving glory from the lost who are hung in chains of eternal woe. Your Jesus will.
Good luck with that.
Are you backtracking now?
You said we have NOTHING in common?
We disagree about the future of the lost.
But we have in common both being redeemed in the blood of Jesus?
Or we do NOT HAVE THAT IN COMMON?
It sounds like you want to say that because you don't believe in eternal perdition therefore blood of Christ has not cleansed me from my sins.
Who'se the real sectarian one here then ? Is it the chains or absent of chains which causes us to be in one Body of Christ or is it eternal Redemption through His shed blood ?
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So you now retract your claim that I “have not passed from death to life”?
I wrote that the NT says we know we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers.
And I said if you didn't love the brothers it might indicate that you have not passed from death to life.
Do you not want to mention THE BLOOD OF JESUS ? Is that the problem ?
Its strong statement "We have nothing in common".
We do not have the redemptive cleansing of Christ's blood in common ? ? ? ? ?
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidYou’re the one who said that I’ve not passed from death to life.
@divegeester
No, I mean my Jesus will not be recieving glory from the lost who are hung in chains of eternal woe. Your Jesus will.
Good luck with that.
Are you backtracking now?
You said we have NOTHING in common?
We disagree about the future of the lost.
But we have in common both being redeemed in the blood of Jesus?
Or we do NOT HAVE ...[text shortened]... ins which causes us to be in one Body of Christ or is it eternal Redemption through His shed blood ?
Another one of your snide comments. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@sonship saidDo you want me to find your post and shove it under your self righteous nose?
@divegeester
So you now retract your claim that I “have not passed from death to life”?
I wrote that the NT says we know we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers.
And I said if you didn't love the brothers it might indicate that you have not passed from death to life.
Do you not want to mention [b]THE BLOOD OF JESUS[ ...[text shortened]... thing in common".
We do not have the redemptive cleansing of Christ's blood in common ? ? ? ? ?
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You’re the one who said that I’ve not passed from death to life.
Another one of your snide comments. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It was no more of a snide comment then the First Epistle of John is a letter filled with snide comments.
Not ashamed at all.
But ARE YOU ashamed to state that the blood of Christ cleanses Christians with different opinions "from all sin" ?
We do not have that in common ? That we are Justified in Christ's atoning sacrifice ?
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidThat the blood of Christ what...???
@divegeester
But ARE YOU ashamed to state that the blood of Christ ?
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidHere’s what you said in reply to me saying I had more in common with FMF than I have with you...
@divegeester
You’re the one who said that I’ve not passed from death to life.
Another one of your snide comments. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It was no more of a snide comment then the First Epistle of John is a letter filled with snide comments.
Not ashamed at all.
But ARE YOU ashamed to state that the blood of Christ cleanses Christian ...[text shortened]... sin"[/b] ?
We do not have that in common ? That we are Justified in Christ's atoning sacrifice ?
”If you feel closer kinship with atheists while fellow Christians are "stooges" this may indicates you have not yet passed from death to life.”
I’m sorry that you feel this way, but it’s your problem, not mine.
07 Dec 18
The Jesus I follow will not glorify in the lost, he will not burn people alive for not believing in him as an evidence to some aliens on another planet and he will not deny a believer because they don’t accept that the trinity is not correct as your church instructs.
Rethink your mind sonship.
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@divegeester saidYou heard me.
That the blood of Christ what...???
Why are you heding, dodging, dancing around the matter?
Christians with different opinions cannot have IN COMMON that they stand upon Christ's shed blood as the basses of their Justification ?
We do or do not have the cleansing of His shed blood for our forgiveness IN COMMON .
Yes or No. Tell the readers.
I have to leave the Forum for the evening.
Tell the readers that Diveegeester and Sonship differ on some beliefs about eternal judgment but we are both cleansed from our sins in the blood of Jesus. We have this in COMMON.
Tell them we DO or tell them we DO NOT.
We learn in the local church life to receive all whom Jesus has received.
This is according to Romans 15.
If Jesus has received someone we have to receive that person.
This is the of receiving in the practice of one city - one church.
The only thing that should divide the church is GEOGRAPHY.
Now you've been slinging CULT and sectarian charges around. Let's see if YOU receive ME as I have confessed I stand in the blood of Christ - MY ONLY covering before God to be justified unto eternal life.
Do we have this in common?
Or do we not have this in common?
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidPerhaps we do, God is merciful.
You heard me.
Why are you heding, dodging, dancing around the matter?
Christians with different opinions cannot have IN COMMON that they stand upon Christ's shed blood as the basses of their Justification ?
We do or do not have the cleansing of His shed blood for our forgiveness IN COMMON .
Yes or No. Tell the readers.
I have to leave the Forum ...[text shortened]... to be justified unto eternal life.
Do we have this in common?
Or do we not have this in common?
Don’t spit your dummy out.
07 Dec 18
@sonship saidSonship we may be brothers in Christ.
You heard me.
Why are you heding, dodging, dancing around the matter?
Christians with different opinions cannot have IN COMMON that they stand upon Christ's shed blood as the basses of their Justification ?
We do or do not have the cleansing of His shed blood for our forgiveness IN COMMON .
Yes or No. Tell the readers.
I have to leave the Forum ...[text shortened]... to be justified unto eternal life.
Do we have this in common?
Or do we not have this in common?
If we are then you nee to listen to me a bit more.
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08 Dec 18
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So you now retract your claim that I “have not passed from death to life”?
You want me to retract that I said if one does not love the brothers it may be an indication that one has not passed from death to life?
No.
Here is what I wrote which you will not receive a retraction on.
We know that we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers. (1 John 3:14)
If you feel closer kinship with atheists while fellow Christians are "stooges" this may indicates you have not yet passed from death to life.
And let's examine the source.
"Do not marvel, brothers, if the world hates you. We know that we have passed out of death into life because we love the brothers. He who does not love abides in death." (1 John 3:13,14)
Did I say you definitely are not passed into life?
Do I need to retract what John wrote here as it could apply to anyone of us?
No.
I repeat it with added emphasis on important words.
We know that we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers. (1 John 3:14)
If you feel closer kinship with atheists while fellow Christians are "stooges" this MAY indicates you have not yet passed from death to life.