Originally posted by @lemon-lime"Nothing in this book is true but it's exactly how things are" , "E.T. 101" , The Holy Bible, Sufism, Zen literature, Bduhhism,etc. Stuff about area 51. Stuff about alchemy and Gnosticism. There is so much reading out there. Cross reference that with history #and anthropological texts. Better yet, read other people's opinions on this stuff and see where it leads you. The world IS full of answers however you must ask the right questions for them to make sense. Basically you have to be able to admit you were wrong, trash your old understanding of the life ,the universe, and everything and start again. This is why it says that the poor in spirit shall goto heaven: They are the ones that can reduce their ego to be ABLE to learn in the first place.
I could do some honest and unbiased research if I knew where to look.
This why I asked if there is a name I could google, or a website that explains this. How can I 'cross reference' what you are telling me if the only information I have is coming from you?
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @lemon-limeJust keep learning and creating. Anything!! But mot importantly ask yourself why you made the decisions you have made. Did you do it for yourself or did you also have others in mind? Doing things for others, because you know a thing or two and can do it, IS the essence of Christianity. You dont charge, you give freely and intelligently to those you love or those who are deserving. Thanks for the questions.
[b]Direct your enquiries to yourself.
Well, I am a fountain of knowledge and wisdom, and notoriously unbiased, so....
Okay, I'll give it a shot.[/b]
Thing is I find information to be very simple to comprehend. I've made my mistakes, I've suffered. I have a sound understanding of the human experience. (check the thread "spirituality 101" ) . If someone comes up against me ina negative way, (whether they take me out of context, belittle or diescredit me BEFORE asking questions or withuout adding anything of their own), I look upon them as being unhelpful and therfor unspiritual. Not only here but in life in general. I've spent many years posting here so I dont come to my conclusions lightly. I couldn't care less about apologies or nitpicking. I dont claim to have all the answers neither do I want people to follow what I say blindly. I wish to enter into a harmonious r'ship with all beings. All I can do is suggest ideas to others , ideas based on my own experience, and leave it up to them. I take zero resposibilty for others suffering but I take full resposibility for my own. Basically 'We' are One. Our minds are just one Mind. Our lives are dreams to awaken from by living righteously and creatively. The only limit to our understanding is ourself. Blaming others is giving them the power, taking full responsibilty is taking power back .. . . . ... . . ... . . . .Simple words but in action they take a life of their own and reveal deeper insights into who you are and what you need to learn.
11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczel"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow..."
Thing is I find information to be very simple to comprehend. I've made my mistakes, I've suffered. I have a sound understanding of the human experience. (check the thread "spirituality 101" ) . If someone comes up against me ina negative way, (whether they take me out of context, belittle or diescredit me BEFORE asking questions or withuout adding an ...[text shortened]... take a life of their own and reveal deeper insights into who you are and what you need to learn.
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Originally posted by @lemon-limeVonnegut said, 'We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.' While Shakespeare advised, 'To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man.'
Shakespeare or Vonnegut?
Finally clarity finds its way into this thread,,,
11 Aug 18
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Originally posted by @lemon-limeShakespeare, Macbeth.
Shakespeare or Vonnegut?
"She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
— To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing."
— Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-28)
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11 Aug 18
Originally posted by @suzianneThis thread has suddenly found its feet.
Shakespeare, Macbeth.
"She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
— To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a ...[text shortened]... n idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing."
— Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-28)
11 Aug 18
The usual suspects have weighed in with the words of others. They have missed the point and remain in their ego bubbles, boyed by popular opinion.
I've said more or less what I wanted to say and have replied honestly to all sincere questions.
I sincerely thank all those who have made this thread . To those that have repeatedly chastised me and the sort, I say "woe unto you" . You have not treated the least of us as well as the best of us. You have missed the point.
Cheers, Charlie
12 Aug 18
Originally posted by @secondsonDoubt me, or anyone else for that matter at your own peril. Each post in spirituality is a message from the heart. Athiest and theist alike. We are all human beings. I'm not saying what is right and what isn't, but I am saying it is wrong to judge a poster without wieghing up the content of their posts. . . . . . Consider this an olive branch 🙂
I could see the light, but only for a moment.
12 Aug 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczel"Doubt me, or anyone else for that matter at your own peril."
Doubt me, or anyone else for that matter at your own peril. Each post in spirituality is a message from the heart. Athiest and theist alike. We are all human beings. I'm not saying what is right and what isn't, but I am saying it is wrong to judge a poster without wieghing up the content of their posts. . . . . . Consider this an olive branch 🙂
Peril? Are you joking? Doubt you? Entirely. I believe God, and He ain't you.
"Each post in spirituality is a message from the heart."
Proud hearts in my estimation.
"We are all human beings."
God isn't. Hear His message. Doubt it at your own peril.
"I'm not saying what is right and what isn't, but I am saying it is wrong to judge a poster without wieghing up the content of their posts."
You contradict yourself.
"Consider this an olive branch."
No problem. In the Bible it says, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
When push comes to shove we all have to draw the line somewhere, "as much as lieth in you" that is.
You shouldn't make it personal here. As long as you say things I disagree with I'll argue about the things you say, but I'll refrain from making it about you. It's not about you, but it seems you think it is. It isn't.
In this forum I will take particular exception at your scoffing at the Word of God. I won't pull any punches. I'll give it to you with both barrels.
Peace.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelI did want to know more about what you believe (and why). But the fact is I do not regard myself as a fountain of knowledge and wisdom, nor completely free of bias.
Doubt me, or anyone else for that matter at your own peril. Each post in spirituality is a message from the heart. Athiest and theist alike. We are all human beings. I'm not saying what is right and what isn't, but I am saying it is wrong to judge a poster without wieghing up the content of their posts. . . . . . Consider this an olive branch 🙂
I did at one time look to myself for answers, but this led to saying and doing things even I couldn't deny were foolish. Fortunately this was in my late teens and early twenties, so I'm able to chalk it up as the foolishness of youth.
Looking to myself for enlightenment had the same effect as an audio feedback loop, or staring at myself for too long in a mirror... so I have first hand experience and know what Paul meant when he said "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
I'm okay with having been a foolish young man, but have no desire to end up as a foolish old man.
13 Aug 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYeah bro. Peace. I aint joking. Serves me right for trying to post my opinions here. I appreicate you giving reasons for disagreing rather than assuming things about me.
[b]"Doubt me, or anyone else for that matter at your own peril."
Peril? Are you joking? Doubt you? Entirely. I believe God, and He ain't you.
"Each post in spirituality is a message from the heart."
Proud hearts in my estimation.
"We are all human beings."
God isn't. Hear His message. Doubt it at your own peril.
"I ...[text shortened]... g at the Word of God. I won't pull any punches. I'll give it to you with both barrels.
Peace.