21 Sep 11
Originally posted by Rajk999Persons submitting to the Vedic teachings and living the true spiritual life can easily know who is qualified and who is not.
The system you presented is baseless.
Is it possible for anyone to know in advance [or at all for that matter] who is
".. pure. learned, wise and have the welfare of the people at heart." ??
Persons of false religion and atheists cannot know ultimately what to do or what not to do and the world we all live at present is evidence of this.
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21 Sep 11
Originally posted by Rajk999I don't Dasa is saying that any communist government currently in existence is the best in the world. For one thing, none would be sympatheti to his religious views. But I will let him speak for himself.
I think he said the ".. best political system in the world".
I guess that means he was not theorising. Then he further compared it to another system in existance.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by DasaThe following are the definitions of democracy and communism given by
The best political system in the world is communism.
For communism to function effectively the leaders must be pure. learned, wise and have the welfare of the people at heart.
They must know the purpose of the human life.
Democracy is a cheating system allowing the stronger to oppress the weak.
I call democracy.......demoncrazy.
wikipedia.
Democracy is a form of government in which all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass social, economic and cultural conditions that enable the free and equal practice of political self-determination.
Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.
Are you using different definitions? If not, then explain how your praise of
communism and condemnation of democracy fits with these definitions.
21 Sep 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsWiki is not the authority on communism.
The following are the definitions of democracy and communism given by
wikipedia.
Democracy is a form of government in which all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. Ideally, this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law. It can also encompass soci ...[text shortened]... explain how your praise of
communism and condemnation of democracy fits with these definitions.
Veda is the authority.
There is true communism and false communism.
False communism may suggest a classless society - but this is a false idea.
Their are 4 classes of persons in the world and true communism recognizes this.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadrwingett doesn't want to live in the real world, he'd rather we all sat in a big dark cave wearing each others 'yesterday's' pants and eating rice from a shared pot.
In other words - communism can't function in the real world.
Dasa would be there too, but only be there if there were no atheists, Christians, Muslims, meat-eaters or 'dishonest' persons. Oh - and as long as he wasn't sitting next to rwingett.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by VoidSpiritIt was the dictatorship of the ' proletariat ' as actually practiced. In practice, the communists are no bleeding heart democrats. They ruthlessly eliminate anyone they want by firstly calling him/her as ' the enemy of the people '. Please read Arthur Koestler's novel 'Darkness at noon'. Also recommended is ' Eastern Approaches ' a factual account of USSR under Stalin.
that wasn't communism, it was a dictatorship.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoThat is dictatorship - not communism. Do not confuse the two concepts. Dasa too is confusing democracy with capitalism.
Best example of what happens when Communism rules is East Germany in the 1950s and 60s. A wasteland where everything was ' verboten ' unless expressly permitted. Or USSR under Stalin.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by divegeesterWho does?
rwingett doesn't want to live in the real world,
I too would wish to live in his communism if it was attainable.
I do believe that something closer to his dream than we have is attainable. What neither of us has yet come up with is a way to persuade others, and actually get there.
21 Sep 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadI wish to live in the Kingdom of God ruled by His Christ.
Who does?
I too would wish to live in his communism if it was attainable.
I do believe that something closer to his dream than we have [b]is attainable. What neither of us has yet come up with is a way to persuade others, and actually get there.[/b]
