Created to Hear God

@fmf said
I shall say that again for good measure. She doesn't demonstrate it. She just asserts it. There.

Have you read the book? In your OP you asked for predictions.

@fmf said
I shan't be proceeding any further into this book. Too much competition for access to my ears and my time.

It is a disappointment. I thought it might be a contemplation on psychology and anthropology and make an interesting case.

Alas, it is instead an exercise in channeling dasa, so to speak.

It's this kind of prose:

[i]As a teenager, I didn't think I could hear God' ...[text shortened]... resting to hear her testimony, yes, but it's not thought-provoking.

Call off the predictive dogs.

When I saw your OP I initially wondered if you had spotted this book as being a potentially interesting read, so I went and looked up the author and did a little read-around. Na… not for me.

@josephw said
They are not "contradictions because they are contradictions." There's no logic in a contradiction.Contradiction implies a flaw. Logic, flawlessness, or else the entire content isn't what it claims to be.

May I ask? Do you literally have a finger in each ear? Are you literally singing "la la la"?

@josephw said
Have you read the book? In your OP you asked for predictions.

It's an audiobook. It's 6 hours and 49 minutes. It'd be a slim volume, then, rather than a tome. I got about 2 and a half hours into it. That's enough.

@josephw said
It means, I'm frightened to say, is I can't find anywhere in the Bible the phrase, "God does not shout."

Was the deception intended? Are you making a joke? Or did you not know it?

There are references that do indeed say God shouts, and his voice is thunderous.
Look them up.

The quote was provided on page 1 (7 posts down) by PettyTalk. I assumed it was correct.

"God does not shout. He speaks quietly and softly, in a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:11-12)."

I think perhaps the quotation mark at the beginning was in error.

@fmf said
May I ask? Do you literally have a finger in each ear? Are you literally singing "la la la"?

Sure, go ahead and shipwreck your own thread. Not the first time.

"It's an audiobook. It's 6 hours and 49 minutes. It'd be a slim volume, then, rather than a tome. I got about 2 and a half hours into it. That's enough."

Rather it is you that has his fingers in his ears. As soon as you figured out, it took you 2.5 hours, that the narrative of the book runs contrary to your worldview, you clammed up.

Just another thread you started, and then nose dived into oblivion. I haven't read the book. I have no knowledge of its content. Yet you immediately seek to deride me for simply making a few general comments with regard to your OP. Maybe you should check your mind in at the spirituality gym and see if it can lift some character and sincerity before you open your mouth.

I'm curious to hear what sort of sound it makes out in the real world where your face isn't hidden.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The quote was provided on page 1 (7 posts down) by PettyTalk. I assumed it was correct.

"God does not shout. He speaks quietly and softly, in a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:11-12)."

I think perhaps the quotation mark at the beginning was in error.

It's still all wrong.

God does shout. God does speak in a still small voice. There's no contradiction in it, and there's no contradiction in the text.

@josephw said
It's still all wrong.

God does shout. God does speak in a still small voice. There's no contradiction in it, and there's no contradiction in the text.

The contradiction was in the quote provided into the thread (clearly in error).

The point is moot however as God doesn't shout or speak in a small voice. (On account of Him not existing).

@josephw said
There are only apparent contradictions.

They are not "contradictions because they are contradictions." There's no logic in a contradiction.

Contradiction implies a flaw. Logic, flawlessness, or else the entire content isn't what it claims to be.

The question is; does God shout, or whisper? Clearly God does both. Therefore, the question of whether or not a contradiction exists is made moot.

Probably no one will agree.

There's no logic in a contradiction, you say?

I said there is logic in a contradiction when the contradiction is intentional. Intentionally to be noted, to stand out, to question it, to make something out of it, to be a point of debate for reasonable minds in finding a meaning.

But then, another "apparent" contradiction tells us everything is meaningless.

There are more contradictions in the bible than meets the eye, but here we have a couple of pointers, pointing to "apparent" contradictions hiding in the bush, which need to be flushed out before we can take aim at them, and hopefully shoot them down as they attempt to fly away, like pheasants.

ECCLESIASTES:
I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. I applied my mind to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under the heavens. What a heavy burden God has laid on mankind! I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

What is crooked cannot be straightened;
what is lacking cannot be counted.

I said to myself, “Look, I have increased in wisdom more than anyone who has ruled over Jerusalem before me; I have experienced much of wisdom and knowledge.” Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.

For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief.

PROVERBS:
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

MATTHEW:
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Therefore, to question the "apparent" contradictions, we need to ask this. If everything is meaningless, especially wisdom, which is specifically mentioned, and is obtained by learning (study/experience), why are we to learn, either from Jesus or from any other source? Why did God, the Father, place a heavy burden on man, whereas God, the Son, makes light the burden on man? Is there a meaning to the "apparent" contradiction between heavy and light?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The contradiction was in the quote provided into the thread (clearly in error).

The point is moot however as God doesn't shout or speak in a small voice. (On account of Him not existing).

Well, obviously, you can't hear God's voice whether he's shouting or whispering. 😀

@pettytalk said
There's no logic in a contradiction, you say?

I said there is logic in a contradiction when the contradiction is intentional. Intentionally to be noted, to stand out, to question it, to make something out of it, to be a point of debate for reasonable minds in finding a meaning.

But then, another "apparent" contradiction tells us everything is meaningless.

There ...[text shortened]... light the burden on man? Is there a meaning to the "apparent" contradiction between heavy and light?

I think I basically said in an earlier post that I agree. I get your point.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The contradiction was in the quote provided into the thread (clearly in error).

The point is moot however as God doesn't shout or speak in a small voice. (On account of Him not existing).

My God! And all this time I must be merely hearing voices that don't exist? Are you certain God doesn't exist?

In my mind he does exist. But then, if you are certain, then I must be schizophrenic, since I hear my own God's voice, loud and clear, and sometimes God even whispers into my ear. I should also mention that I'm not a stranger to the hospital's psychiatric section, having visited a few friends there.

@pettytalk said
My God! And all this time I must be merely hearing voices that don't exist? Are you certain God doesn't exist?

In my mind he does exist. But then, if you are certain, then I must be schizophrenic, since I hear my own God's voice, loud and clear, and sometimes God even whispers into my ear. I should also mention that I'm not a stranger to the hospital's psychiatric section, having visited a few friends there.

If you are indeed on speaking terms with the divine sir, please pass on my regards and ask Him what's up with all the earthquakes.

@josephw said
Sure, go ahead and shipwreck your own thread. Not the first time.

"It's an audiobook. It's 6 hours and 49 minutes. It'd be a slim volume, then, rather than a tome. I got about 2 and a half hours into it. That's enough."

Rather it is you that has his fingers in his ears. As soon as you figured out, it took you 2.5 hours, that the narrative of the book runs contrary to yo ...[text shortened]...
I'm curious to hear what sort of sound it makes out in the real world where your face isn't hidden.

you immediately seek to deride me for simply making a few general comments with regard to your OP

I thought your rationalization of the glaring contradictions in the scriptures was a bit facile, that's all.

@josephw said
Sure, go ahead and shipwreck your own thread. Not the first time.

"It's an audiobook. It's 6 hours and 49 minutes. It'd be a slim volume, then, rather than a tome. I got about 2 and a half hours into it. That's enough."

Rather it is you that has his fingers in his ears. As soon as you figured out, it took you 2.5 hours, that the narrative of the book runs contrary to yo ...[text shortened]...
I'm curious to hear what sort of sound it makes out in the real world where your face isn't hidden.

As soon as you figured out, it took you 2.5 hours, that the narrative of the book runs contrary to your worldview, you clammed up.

I'd say that our consciousness and our evolution as social beings may well have created ingredients/capacities conducive to being receptive to ancient narratives and dreams that shape our instincts. So I am quite open-minded on this. I was hoping the book would delve into this kind of thing. But it doesn't.