Spirituality
30 Dec 11
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsAs much as God deems neccesary?
Here is a simple Thermodynamics problem for you. second LAW.
A crane is operated by a 15 hp gas engine. Taking into account the heat
lost by friction in the crane, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE ENGINE IS 20%. If
the combustion value of the gas is 600 BTU per cubic foot, how many
cubic feet of gas must be used to lift 3000 pounds through a height of
60 feet?
What does the bible say on the subject?
Nothing? Probably doesn't exist then.
01 Jan 12
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Originally posted by shavixmirThe second law of thermodynamics is the law of energy decay. All processes
As much as God deems neccesary?
What does the bible say on the subject?
Nothing? Probably doesn't exist then.
in nature have a tendency to decay or to move toward a state of disorder.
This is why that even in biological system we have loss of orderly information
instead of the the gain of new more orderly information as evolution requires.
I think the Holy Bible describes this second law of thermodynamics in Psalms.
Of old You laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You will endure;
Yes, they will all grow old like a garment;
Like a cloak You will change them,
And they will be changed.
(Psalm 102:25-26 NKJV)
It restates the Genesis account that God created the Heavens and the Earth
and then continues by describing the present state of the creation. It will
perish or decay and it will grow old and wear out or become less orderly.
That is, unlike the eternal God, it will change because it is not eternal.
In other words, the universe is running down, deteriorating, constantly
becoming less and less orderly.
The fact that the universe, in its present state is deteriorating, has been
fully verified by modern science. Everywhere we look, from the scale of the
galaxies down to the scale of the atom, we find a universal, natural tendency
of all systems to go from order to disorder.
The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is
decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies
wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our houses, our machines wear
out and are finally abandoned and replaced. Many atoms decay to simpler
products, and it is even being postulated that sub-atomic particles, such as
the proton, decay into energy. Our own sun is burning down.
It may also speak of the first law of thermodynamics which says energy can
not be created or destroyed when it says God will endure and not change.
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsthe only way you could come to the above conclusion is if you don't understand the second law of thermodynamics.
The second law of thermodynamics is the law of energy decay. All processes
in nature have a tendency to decay or to move toward a state of disorder.
This is why that even in biological system we have loss of orderly information
instead of the the gain of new more orderly information as evolution requires.
the second law applies to closed/isolated systems. the earth is neither. energy is constantly renewed from a little thing we call the sun. it's that bright ball in the sky during the daytime.
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritNot only do you not understand the laws of physics, you do not understand
the only way you could come to the above conclusion is if you don't understand the second law of thermodynamics.
the second law applies to closed/isolated systems. the earth is neither. energy is constantly renewed from a little thing we call the sun. it's that bright ball in the sky during the daytime.
the universe and astronomy. You are like the Jehovah's Witnesses, who
only know part of the story. Their true gods are the Watchtower Society
and Satan. Your gods are Darwin and his evolutionary scientists and Satan.
See the common element? You thought you had no god and no belief
didn't you? You have just been decieved into claiming to be atheist makes
everything okay. What a great deceiver, Satan is.
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsyour platitudes aside, it has been proven beyond doubt that you have no understanding about the 2nd law of thermodynamics as it apples to earth.
Not only do you not understand the laws of physics, you do not understand
the universe and astronomy. You are like the Jehovah's Witnesses, who
only know part of the story. Their true gods are the Watchtower Society
and Satan. Your gods are Darwin and his evolutionary scientists and Satan.
See the common element? You thought you had no god and no be ...[text shortened]... decieved into claiming to be atheist makes
everything okay. What a great deceiver, Satan is.
ergo, your previous statement concerning evolution being impossible due to the 2nd law is completely ignorant.
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritYou haven't proven anything but your ability to propagate untruths.
your platitudes aside, it has been proven beyond doubt that you have no understanding about the 2nd law of thermodynamics as it apples to earth.
ergo, your previous statement concerning evolution being impossible due to the 2nd law is completely ignorant.
What I have said has already been tested. That is why it is called
a law and not a theory, like the THEORY of evolution, mumbnut.
THEY ARE CALLED THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS.
DUFFUS. 😏
01 Jan 12
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Originally posted by RJHindsare you claiming that the 2nd law of thermodynamics does not apply to closed/isolated systems?
You haven't proven anything but your ability to propagate untruths.
What I have said has already been tested.
yes it has, and it proves you wrong.
doofus, listen closely. it's not hard to follow. 2n'd law of thermodynamics applies to closed/isolated systems. that means NO EXTERNAL ENERGY IS ADDED.
earth is not a closed/isolated system. are you following along numbnuts?
look up in the sky on a clear day and you will see a little ball of light. that's called the sun, it ADDS energy to the earth system nullifying the effects of entropy in the earth system.
now after reading that, go back to school and take up physics again because you must have flunked out last time.
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritReread the following paragraph from my previous post and explain why this
are you claiming that the 2nd law of thermodynamics does not apply to closed/isolated systems?
What I have said has already been tested.
yes it has, and it proves you wrong.
doofus, listen closely. it's not hard to follow. 2n'd law of thermodynamics applies to closed/isolated systems. that means NO EXTERNAL ENERGY IS ADDED. ...[text shortened]... hat, go back to school and take up physics again because you must have flunked out last time.
is all happening, if it is not due to the second law of thermodynamics.
The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is
decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies
wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our houses, our machines wear
out and are finally abandoned and replaced. Many atoms decay to simpler
products, and it is even being postulated that sub-atomic particles, such as
the proton, decay into energy. Our own sun is burning down.
http://www.universetoday.com/53979/when-will-the-sun-burn-out/
I will accept your apology anytime with no hard feelings.
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsOh boy.... LIKE oh boy ...
Reread the following paragraph from my previous post and explain why this
is all happening, if it is not due to the second law of thermodynamics.
The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is
decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies
wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our house ...[text shortened]... m/53979/when-will-the-sun-burn-out/
I will accept your apology anytime with no hard feelings.
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindshehehe. okay, you have decided to remain a doofus. it's as i have already concluded, your brain is just not wired to understand anything.
Reread the following paragraph from my previous post and explain why this
is all happening, if it is not due to the second law of thermodynamics.
The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is
decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies
wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our house ...[text shortened]... m/53979/when-will-the-sun-burn-out/
I will accept your apology anytime with no hard feelings.