Definition of Evolution

Originally posted by RJHinds
The Holy Bible does not mention any thing about dinosaurs
in Noah's ark. So I can not say for sure, but I doubt it.

Does the Holy Bible mention anything about dinosaurs?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Does the Holy Bible mention anything about dinosaurs?

I don't know, but some bible scholars say that certain creatures
mentioned may be dinosuars because of their description. I
believe this was in the book of Job, but I am not sure exactly
where it was mentioned.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I don't know, but some bible scholars say that certain creatures
mentioned may be dinosuars because of their description. I
believe this was in the book of Job, but I am not sure exactly
where it was mentioned.

Humans coexisted with dinosaurs and yet they're not mentioned in the Bible?!

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Humans coexisted with dinosaurs and yet they're not mentioned in the Bible?!

Dinosaurs were probably know by some other name then. So that
is probably why it dones not mention dinosaurs. It has just been in
the last couple hundred years that we have given them names. So
they were not mentioned in any ancient book, unless you consider
dragons the same as dinosaurs.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Dinosaurs were probably know by some other name then. So that
is probably why it dones not mention dinosaurs. It has just been in
the last couple hundred years that we have given them names. So
they were not mentioned in any ancient book, unless you consider
dragons the same as dinosaurs.

This is of course true, but you'd think that if humans coexisted with flying lizards the size of a car,...................................

Why am i even having this discussion?! This is patently absolute nonsense and insulting to anyone with a modicum of rational thought. Heck, not even the JW's (bless them) believe this utter garbage.

Good night.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
This is of course true, but you'd think that if humans coexisted with flying lizards the size of a car,...................................

Why am i even having this discussion?! This is patently absolute nonsense and insulting to anyone with a modicum of rational thought. Heck, not even the JW's (bless them) believe this utter garbage.

Good night.

There is one apparently very large creature called the Leviathan that is
mentioned in Job, Psalms, and Isaiah that is very fierce. So if you find
it sleeping and try to wake it you will never do it again. It is also
mentioned with large sea monsters, and dragons and said to be a
twisted serpent. Another creature called the behemoth is mentioned.
Most scholars think these are probably just the crocodile and the
hippopotamus.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Wow, I am surprised you actually admitted that. Of course the basic soup was more than just H2, it included carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, stuff like that also. Good to see you on our side now.

Throw in a little oregeno and you never know what you'll come up with.

Originally posted by galveston75
Throw in a little oregeno and you never know what you'll come up with.

It's like a box of chocolates.

Originally posted by RJHinds
It's like a box of chocolates.

Lol.... Thank goodness no moon dust was present or we'd all be green and smell like cheese.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Evolution is an imagined process by which living things formed by
themselves without a creator and then somehow improved by themselves.
All bacteria, plants, animals, and humans have arisen by mere chance
from a single, remote ancestor that somehow came into existence. The
basic theory is that hydrogen gas, given enough time, turn into people.

You are expanding way over budget the definition of evolution. You notice the root word, evolve. It means the change in lifeforms over time. There is NOTHING in evolutionary theory that talks about how life started. That is a separate scientific avenue of research. Abiogenesis, comet splash, whatever, it is a separate issue from what everyone knows as 'evolution'.

Why do you continue to attack evolution with that argument that nobody who studies it includes in his or her definition?

Here is it again, slower:

Evolution

Is

the

change

of

life

forms

over

time.

Period. There is nothing more to it than that.

Do you think in the future you could eliminate the 'how life got started' thing from your definition of evolution? Is that too much to ask?

Originally posted by sonhouse
You are expanding way over budget the definition of evolution. You notice the root word, evolve. It means the change in lifeforms over time. There is NOTHING in evolutionary theory that talks about how life started. That is a separate scientific avenue of research. Abiogenesis, comet splash, whatever, it is a separate issue from what everyone knows as 'evol ...[text shortened]... the 'how life got started' thing from your definition of evolution? Is that too much to ask?

You little pip-squeak don't you know NOTHING. Darwin believed that all
life evolved from a common ancestor, which has never been identified.
That is the foundation upon which the theory of evolution is based. So
that begs the questions of what is this common ancestor and where did
it come from? I believe there is a common Designer instead. Without
its foundation the theory of evolution falls apart.

Originally posted by RJHinds
So that begs the questions of what is this common ancestor and where did
it come from?

Agreed. For that there are hypothesis known as abiogenesis. However they remain separate from the Theory of Evolution.

Without its foundation the theory of evolution falls apart.
Except that knowledge of the common ancestor of life and its origins is not a foundation of evolution.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Agreed. For that there are hypothesis known as abiogenesis. However they remain separate from the Theory of Evolution.

[b]Without its foundation the theory of evolution falls apart.
Except that knowledge of the common ancestor of life and its origins is not a foundation of evolution.[/b]

don quijote called, he wants you to stop fighting his windmills. They are his to fight, damnit. By what right do you attempt to fight them yourself??

Originally posted by twhitehead
Agreed. For that there are hypothesis known as abiogenesis. However they remain separate from the Theory of Evolution.

[b]Without its foundation the theory of evolution falls apart.
Except that knowledge of the common ancestor of life and its origins is not a foundation of evolution.[/b]

So what is the fondation for the theory of evolution? It certainly is
not founded on the fact that God created all the kinds of life.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
don quijote called, he wants you to stop fighting his windmills. They are his to fight, damnit. By what right do you attempt to fight them yourself??

I am not well informed of don quiote's fight. I fight against the powers
of darkness, not windmills.