03 Feb 22
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@kingdavid403 saidSaved does not mean eternal life in the kingdom of God. Paul said women will be saved in childbearing. Do you think all women who bear children will get eternal life?
ALL who call on the Lord will be saved; and then some, in my opinion; that includes Trinitarians; which I am not. Believing everything written in the Bible is NOT a requirement for Salvation; even tho I believe every Word written in the Bible.
So in a sense, you are correct in my opinion.
03 Feb 22
@divegeester saidThe doctrine of salvation is opinion?
No. I said doctrines are opinions.
God's word is His opinion?
You're making no biblical sense.
03 Feb 22
@divegeester saidBy the time you're done hanging scripture out to dry there will be nothing left to believe in.
You are also mistaken with this assertion.
Ever hear of "sound doctrine"? The Bible is chock full of truth, which is sound doctrine, but all you ever talk about are your pet peeves and sounding off about your own distorted opinions.
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03 Feb 22
Isn’t it funny how rajk999 has no problem with divegeester’s ridiculous assertion that “everyone goes to Heaven” but will endlessly argue about salvation by Grace through faith which has way more support in the Holy Bible.
And where’s Ghost defending the integrity of Christianity from divegeester’s ridiculous “everyone goes to Heaven” nonsense?
I guess atheists and Christ deniers stick together and only attack Christians who believe in the deity of Christ.
Says a lot.
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03 Feb 22
@pb1022 saidBump for divegeester 😊
<<Salvation is free and for everyone. It refers to not being extinct after death.>>
How do you square this statement with…
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
(John 3:16)
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine he ...[text shortened]...
Jesus Christ, the Apostle John and the Apostle Paul are all saying the same thing in those verses.
03 Feb 22
@kingdavid403 saidThank you.
ALL who call on the Lord will be saved; and then some, in my opinion; that includes Trinitarians; which I am not. Believing everything written in the Bible is NOT a requirement for Salvation; even tho I believe every Word written in the Bible.
So in a sense, you are correct in my opinion.
Thank you for actually addressing my OP instead of flinging your poo like a chimp, which some are doing here.
03 Feb 22
@sonship saidThough so.
@divegeesterAs I’ve said to you dozens of times, when you are prepared to enter into a “yes” or “no” response to questions I will be more than happy to indulge you.
Yea, yea.
You'll be "more than happy" to do sqwat.
Let me know when want me to post the challenge again.
03 Feb 22
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@josephw saidDoctrines are a human construct.
The doctrine of salvation is opinion?
God's word is His opinion?
You're making no biblical sense.
Doctrines are the opinions of people which over years and years which have coalesced into sacred thought-cows.
Chunk of religious ideology which have been developed to be swallowed whole by a fearful laity incapable of challenging the sanctimonious status quo.
03 Feb 22
@josephw saidI deliberately haven’t mentioned “scripture” only doctrine.
By the time you're done hanging scripture out to dry there will be nothing left to believe in.
Ever hear of "sound doctrine"? The Bible is chock full of truth, which is sound doctrine, but all you ever talk about are your pet peeves and sounding off about your own distorted opinions.
03 Feb 22
@divegeester said2 Timothy 3:16
Doctrines are a human construct.
Doctrines are the opinions of people which over years and years which have coalesced into sacred thought-cows.
Chunk of religious ideology which have been developed to be swallowed whole by a fearful laity incapable of challenging the sanctimonious status quo.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Your ideas and opinions are heretical, and are a direct contradiction of the scriptures. Even antichrist.
A reprobate mind occurs as a result of rejecting the clear truth of God's Word and substituting it with ones personal interpretations and opinions.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(Embolden mine)
Apparently you can't just believe what the scriptures say. Your teachers have deceived you.
03 Feb 22
@josephw saidI don’t disagree with this scripture. I’m challenging the doctrines not scripture.
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
You seem to be having comprehension issues.
03 Feb 22
@divegeester saidDoctrine is developed by the scriptures. Without the scriptures there is no doctrine, only opinion.
I deliberately haven’t mentioned “scripture” only doctrine.
The Bible isn't a book of opinions.
03 Feb 22
@josephw saidI think you are mistaken.
Your ideas and opinions are heretical, and are a direct contradiction of the scriptures. Even antichrist.
Calling my ides “antichrist” might make you feel like you are exercising your self proclaimed “spiritual muscle” Josephw, but it’s a piss poor argument. No better than me calling you a tosser.