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25 Sep 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDuring my christian upbringing they always told me "god helps those who help themselves." Is that no longer operative? I don't claim to have the answer to everything (or even to be a useful contributor.) I'm a moron too! I am not so stupid as to believe that just wandering around in the parking lot waiting for divine intervention is going to accomplish anything other than more suffering and the eventual disappearance of our species. If that plan is fine with you then go ahead. For myself, at least, every chance I get I try to tell people that there are things more important than our petty differences in belief. Most young people seem to get this - so maybe once all of us morons die off they'll have a chance (as long they are not convinced to wander around the parking lot like...)
perhaps you have the solutions Jack? Good to see there was more to your post than simply telling others that they are morons, quite deep really.
i was once buying petrol from a Shell petrol station , Gt western road, Glasgow. a young girl and a group of other students were demonstrating outside, against this particular companies exploitation of ...[text shortened]... faith in a supernatural power, or her for putting faith in humankind and the political element?
25 Sep 09
Originally posted by TerrierJackI have never read this thing myself, of course one must remember that there are a number of things attributed to God that are not really his work. The closest thing i have come across is not from a Christian source but an eastern source. Where i live, during our youth, Bruce Lee was a real folk hero. My friend had an amazing poster of him, taken from a scene of Enter the dragon, the nunchaka scene, the caption read, there is no help like self help.
During my christian upbringing they always told me "god helps those who help themselves." Is that no longer operative? I don't claim to have the answer to everything (or even to be a useful contributor.) I'm a moron too! I am not so stupid as to believe that just wandering around in the parking lot waiting for divine intervention is going to accomplish ...[text shortened]... 'll have a chance (as long they are not convinced to wander around the parking lot like...)
If God has stated that he will bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth, then who am i to argue with him? there are no easy solutions to this problem, which economy is willing to sacrifice its wealth for the sake of the environment?
Belief is one thing, as are differences, until such things as corporate greed and exploitation of the environment persist, which incidentally have as their basis a spiritual problem, that being greed, then telling others to put aside differences seems to me to have the same merit as belief in divine intervention, as does wandering the car calling for peace while the tree that shades us is burning!
25 Sep 09
Originally posted by menace71Affected in what way? Spiritually or physically?
What if this earth & this whole universe was affected by the fall of man? Is not that what most Christians believe? Of course I've heard somewhere that there is actually an acceleration of the universe which can't be accounted for with the current mass of the universe. dark matter?
Manny
26 Sep 09
Originally posted by Badwater"My dare remains." ðŸ˜
I'm an inactive minister, and I don't like being called an idiot. Who does? Plus, I'm absolutely certain that my theology and Christology in no way resembles yours; I'm certain you don't consider me very Christian. That's ok - the feeling is more than mutual.
My dare remains. ðŸ˜
Your doubt of my abilities to interpret and expound upon the Gospel are h ...[text shortened]... ts. I'm sure in your garden of Ignorance your plants are much larger than anyone else's.
Your threat is as hollow and empty as your knowledge of the gospel.
No one who knows Christ makes threats like that, especially in a public forum.
'I dare ya'. 'I double dare ya'. What kind of childish school yard nonsense is that? It's childish foolishness. No mature adult would make threats like that. Especially against someone they don't know.
26 Sep 09
Originally posted by josephw(I think Joseph won that one.)
[b]"My dare remains." ðŸ˜
Your threat is as hollow and empty as your knowledge of the gospel.
No one who knows Christ makes threats like that, especially in a public forum.
'I dare ya'. 'I double dare ya'. What kind of childish school yard nonsense is that? It's childish foolishness. No mature adult would make threats like that. Especially against someone they don't know.[/b]
26 Sep 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelGod is in control of what we do that effects the earth.
HEY CHRISTIAN DUDES!!! Stop putting a barrier between you and God. Nothing is set in stone,(or scripture), we all have the power to AFEECT the future on this planet on many different levels-tap into it 🙂
26 Sep 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelWe aren't, "in stone" like statues? Or permanent, things are permanent like 2+2=4 will always be permanent. Scripture is permanent.
HEY CHRISTIAN DUDES!!! Stop putting a barrier between you and God. Nothing is set in stone,(or scripture), we all have the power to AFEECT the future on this planet on many different levels-tap into it 🙂
27 Sep 09
Originally posted by daniel58Nothing is permanant. Only change. And yes, you do put a barrier between you and God, whom you dont know-except maybe the odd glimpse through scritpture,or whatever.
We aren't, "in stone" like statues? Or permanent, things are permanent like 2+2=4 will always be permanent. Scripture is permanent.