Originally posted by SuzianneAll my observations and questions are bang on target, whether you find them convenient or not. Declaring on-topic point blank questions to be "rhetorical" is therefore undisguised evasion. So perhaps you should go back and answer some of my questions, points and observations now that you know that they were not rhetorical but were, instead, specific and explicit ~ and opinionated ~ responses to things that you had posted.
So you will pardon me if I treat ALL your questions as rhetorical.
Originally posted by FMFAs nothing (well, almost nothing) could be further from the truth, I suppose that, in addition to being "rhetorical", you're now trying for "lying"?
All my observations and questions are bang on target, whether you find them convenient or not. Declaring on-topic point blank questions to be "rhetorical" is therefore undisguised evasion. So perhaps you should go back and answer some of my questions, points and observations now that you know that they were not rhetorical but were, instead, specific and explicit ~ and opinionated ~ responses to things that you had posted.
Here's another hint: If you insist on using "logic", you should take care that your "given" is correct. Your logic is circular, at best.
Now can we get back to the thread?
Originally posted by SuzianneThe fact that Revelation was written by and for early Christians during Roman times is entirely relevant. There is no reason to think they had early C21st USA and its shrinking middle class in mind. A prophesy can be about the next day, or week, or year.
Isaiah was written in or near 800 BC. Does this mean his prophecies are about his time?
In case you don't get it: Prophecy is what prophets do. They're not news reporters.
Originally posted by Suzianneim baffled by your logic. can you explain how a reduction in the quality of life for some parts of the planet are an indication of the end times?
I'm not stupid, and neither is he.
He and I can both read the words 'pessimism' and 'misanthropy', AND we both know what they mean. You phrase your 'question' to paint him with these words no matter which answer he gives you. I wouldn't answer such an obvious personal attack, either.
The least you could do is come clean when busted. I think we're done here.
Originally posted by divegeesterIf God's kingdom is not of this world and Satan is the god of this world then whose kingdom do earthy governments represent?
I'm sorry to spoil your facination but I do recognise that Jesus said satan was the god of this world. What has that got to do with my post which you are replying to though?
05 Apr 15
Originally posted by whodeyYou have to be a little careful with that type of conclusion. What did Christ mean when he said "Satan is the god of this world"? Governments tend to represent interest groups, but assuming the relevant interest group is supernatural is a mistake. It's rather more mundane - they represent the rich, by and large.
If God's kingdom is not of this world and Satan is the god of this world then whose kingdom do earthy governments represent?
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThat I do believe is one of the big issues with people, these represent the
You have to be a little careful with that type of conclusion. What did Christ mean when he said "Satan is the god of this world"? Governments tend to represent interest groups, but assuming the relevant interest group is supernatural is a mistake. It's rather more mundane - they represent the rich, by and large.
rich, those represent the poor. It is still us verses us, and if the spiritual
is where all the trouble is coming from than it doesn't matter what interest
group someone is for that puts them at odds with all others.
Satan being the god of this world whose main goal is harm us and keep us
at odds with one another, he will not care which special interest group one
is for as soon as you choose one over others you've put yourself at odds
with others. Being for everyone on a level playing field is really the only
proper way to look at each other. If you do not treat all with the same level
or care, if you do not hold everyone accountable as you do those you do
disagree with you have twisted what is right for something other than a
real concern of truth and honesty.