14 Jan 16
Originally posted by sonhouseYour own reference admits that it is impossible to prove that the universe was not created 6,000-10,000 years ago.
The lies of creationism:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/06/20/creationism-requires-a-global-conspiracy-of-lying-scientists-andor-a-lying-god/
However, he is wrong that creationism relies on the fact that all scientist are lying, because I have made many references to scientists that believe in the young earth and a young universe of only a few thousand years old. And even many, of those that still believe in the propaganda of an old earth and universe that they were taught in school, have come to believe that there must be a divine Creator because of the discovery of the programming instructions in DNA and the unbelievable complexity of life from the cell on up.
He is also wrong about a theory that God is lying, because atheist refuse to acknowledge God as even existing, but claim that man is a god and has made up the God theory. 😏
Originally posted by RJHindsThat part is true anyway. Man made god in his own image, how could it be otherwise? An eternal being presumably living in some kind of space outside our universe just HAPPENS to look like humans? How can you believe that rot?
Your own reference admits that it is impossible to prove that the universe was not created 6,000-10,000 years ago.
However, he is wrong that creationism relies on the fact that all scientist are lying, because I have made many references to scientists that believe in the young earth and a young universe of only a few thousand years old. And even many, of ...[text shortened]... cknowledge God as even existing, but claim that man is a god and has made up the God theory. 😏
That is going to the fundamental arrogance of the human race, thinking somehow we look like gods.
14 Jan 16
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They cant find anything much older than about 6000 years.
We do however have a problem with light from distant stars.
Not sure about that one.
Maybe Kelly Jay who I respect enormously can shed some light.(no pun intended)
Not interested in the opinion of the welsh chump whoo cantt eeven speel.
14 Jan 16
Originally posted by Captain StrangeA living tree 9000 years old has just been found in Scotland:
They cant find anything much older than about 6000 years.
We do however have a problem with light from distant stars.
Not sure about that one.
Maybe Kelly Jay who I respect enormously can shed some light.
Not interested in the opinion of the welsh chump whoo cantt eeven speel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1895979/Worlds-oldest-living-tree-over-9000-years-old.html
OF COURSE Hinds will poo poo this and any other evidence older than that ridiculous 6000 year figure.
"They can't prove it didn't get 2 tree rings a year' and so forth. That is his basic argument.
14 Jan 16
Originally posted by sonhouseGod was manifest in the image of man as Jesus, so why can't man be made in the image of God? 😏
That part is true anyway. Man made god in his own image, how could it be otherwise? An eternal being presumably living in some kind of space outside our universe just HAPPENS to look like humans? How can you believe that rot?
That is going to the fundamental arrogance of the human race, thinking somehow we look like gods.
14 Jan 16
Originally posted by sonhouseActually this is all speculation and one can not always tell the date by tree rings or carbon dating. Carbon dating is selected dating. Here is the theory of carbon dating.
A living tree 9000 years old has just been found in Scotland:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1895979/Worlds-oldest-living-tree-over-9000-years-old.html
OF COURSE Hinds will poo poo this and any other evidence older than that ridiculous 6000 year figure.
"They can't prove it didn't get 2 tree rings a year' and so forth. That is his basic argument.
15 Jan 16
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Originally posted by sonhouseSatan the the serpent devil told Eve the opposite of what God said. You also say God is a liar and say exactly the opposite from God. It is clear that you are of your father the devil and unlike Eve, I will not believe your lies. But I will continue to believe the truth. 😏
That part is true anyway. Man made god in his own image, how could it be otherwise? An eternal being presumably living in some kind of space outside our universe just HAPPENS to look like humans? How can you believe that rot?
That is going to the fundamental arrogance of the human race, thinking somehow we look like gods.
Originally posted by SuzianneNo, the truth in most similar cases does not 'lie somewhere in the middle'. And it doesn't in this case either.
I'm convinced that both sides in this discussion just want to argue. Just as in most similar cases, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But both sides insist that only they have the entire story, when the truth is that neither side has a corner on the whole truth.
15 Jan 16
Originally posted by SuzianneYeah, I already know that you believe in a multi-billion year old earth and universe and that God used evilution in forming the animals and man over millions of years.
I'm convinced that both sides in this discussion just want to argue. Just as in most similar cases, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But both sides insist that only they have the entire story, when the truth is that neither side has a corner on the whole truth.
However, I choose to accept the total word of God as truth and not the word of corruptible men. 😏