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@divegeester said
This is a discussion, what are you on about “this line of questioning”?

Surely if you have debated this topic and your views on it dozens of times, as you claimed recently, then you will have come across these quite obvious questions before.
I'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.

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@suzianne said
Of course you don't. Because if you agreed with me, your fun "put-down" game would be over.
Why are you so paranoid all the time. It’s a normal discussion in which no one is “putting anyone down”.

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@suzianne said
You still don't get it. You haven't listened to a single word I've said.

In case you still don't understand, this is why I wanted you to go find what I've said about this many times. I'm not interested in your being as bull-headed as other, more "churchified" Christians.
Instead of telling me to go and find what you’ve written about this topic dozens of times (of which I can remember none from the 12 or so years I’ve been here), why not just engage in grown up discussion now?

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@suzianne said
I'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.
I’m trying to have a discussion with you about your beliefs. I’ve now had to reply to three of your ranty posts in a row. Were you like this the last 12 times you discussed this topic?

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@suzianne said
I don't happen to believe the concept that "God never changes". It's a bit of self-advertizing that isn't quite true.
OK
God never changes.
But Man does. (Constantly)

So how is Man made in god's image if Man is changing all the time?

Does god have brown eyes for instance? (When ALL Mankind had brown eyes)

How tall is he/she/it?
What even does "image" mean? ...

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Suzianne,

At what point in mankind’s evolution were we firstly actually in “God’s image” and what happens as we continue to evolve?

Edit: Wolfgang59’s post landed while I was typing.

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@wolfgang59 said
That is an option.
But would that mean that when we were single-celled creature ... so was god?

The logical conclusion of god evolving alongside us is that he is a product of evolution too. And if god and Man co-evolve ... who is in whose image?
I suppose that God's image could be represented within the incredible potential within the dna of the single cells which was a truly incredible thing.

As ever it comes down to how you hear the words. Through one pair of eyes a single cell is nothing. Through another pair of eyes it is a wonderous thing containing the stuff of every living thing in the universe.

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@petewxyz said
I suppose that God's image could be represented within the incredible potential within the dna of the single cells which was a truly incredible thing.

As ever it comes down to how you hear the words. Through one pair of eyes a single cell is nothing. Through another pair of eyes it is a wonderous thing containing the stuff of every living thing in the universe.
Lots of interpretations.

But the OT was finished (I think) around 500 BCE
The NT was finished around 200 CE
The bible was agreed around 300 CE

Even within those short timescales Man has evolved.

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@suzianne said
I'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.
Regardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?

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@divegeester said
I’m trying to have a discussion with you about your beliefs. I’ve now had to reply to three of your ranty posts in a row. Were you like this the last 12 times you discussed this topic?
No. But guess what? I'm pretty damned tired of your automatic derision by now.

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@wolfgang59 said
Regardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?
"Constantly evolving man". "Never-changing God".

Have you read anything I've posted, just in this thread? Seriously.

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@divegeester said
Suzianne,

At what point in mankind’s evolution were we firstly actually in “God’s image” and what happens as we continue to evolve?

Edit: Wolfgang59’s post landed while I was typing.
I've answered this. Multiple times in this one thread.

Stop harassing me.

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@wolfgang59 said
Lots of interpretations.

But the OT was finished (I think) around 500 BCE
The NT was finished around 200 CE
The bible was agreed around 300 CE

Even within those short timescales Man has evolved.
Not out of being "in God's image" he hasn't.

We're still the same species we've always been.

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@divegeester said
Instead of telling me to go and find what you’ve written about this topic dozens of times (of which I can remember none from the 12 or so years I’ve been here), why not just engage in grown up discussion now?
Take a good long look at this thread, and my posts in it, and maybe more telling, the posts of others in it, including you.

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/creation-and-evolution.177892

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@wolfgang59 said
Regardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?
I think you misread her post. She said:

'I don't happen to believe the concept that "God never changes".

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