@divegeester saidI'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.
This is a discussion, what are you on about “this line of questioning”?
Surely if you have debated this topic and your views on it dozens of times, as you claimed recently, then you will have come across these quite obvious questions before.
@suzianne saidInstead of telling me to go and find what you’ve written about this topic dozens of times (of which I can remember none from the 12 or so years I’ve been here), why not just engage in grown up discussion now?
You still don't get it. You haven't listened to a single word I've said.
In case you still don't understand, this is why I wanted you to go find what I've said about this many times. I'm not interested in your being as bull-headed as other, more "churchified" Christians.
@suzianne saidI’m trying to have a discussion with you about your beliefs. I’ve now had to reply to three of your ranty posts in a row. Were you like this the last 12 times you discussed this topic?
I'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.
@suzianne saidOK
I don't happen to believe the concept that "God never changes". It's a bit of self-advertizing that isn't quite true.
God never changes.
But Man does. (Constantly)
So how is Man made in god's image if Man is changing all the time?
Does god have brown eyes for instance? (When ALL Mankind had brown eyes)
How tall is he/she/it?
What even does "image" mean? ...
04 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidI suppose that God's image could be represented within the incredible potential within the dna of the single cells which was a truly incredible thing.
That is an option.
But would that mean that when we were single-celled creature ... so was god?
The logical conclusion of god evolving alongside us is that he is a product of evolution too. And if god and Man co-evolve ... who is in whose image?
As ever it comes down to how you hear the words. Through one pair of eyes a single cell is nothing. Through another pair of eyes it is a wonderous thing containing the stuff of every living thing in the universe.
04 Sep 20
@petewxyz saidLots of interpretations.
I suppose that God's image could be represented within the incredible potential within the dna of the single cells which was a truly incredible thing.
As ever it comes down to how you hear the words. Through one pair of eyes a single cell is nothing. Through another pair of eyes it is a wonderous thing containing the stuff of every living thing in the universe.
But the OT was finished (I think) around 500 BCE
The NT was finished around 200 CE
The bible was agreed around 300 CE
Even within those short timescales Man has evolved.
04 Sep 20
@suzianne saidRegardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
I'm just interested in finding out if you really don't agree with my elementary premise, or if you're just naysaying just to naysay.
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?
@divegeester saidNo. But guess what? I'm pretty damned tired of your automatic derision by now.
I’m trying to have a discussion with you about your beliefs. I’ve now had to reply to three of your ranty posts in a row. Were you like this the last 12 times you discussed this topic?
04 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 said"Constantly evolving man". "Never-changing God".
Regardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?
Have you read anything I've posted, just in this thread? Seriously.
@divegeester saidI've answered this. Multiple times in this one thread.
Suzianne,
At what point in mankind’s evolution were we firstly actually in “God’s image” and what happens as we continue to evolve?
Edit: Wolfgang59’s post landed while I was typing.
Stop harassing me.
04 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidNot out of being "in God's image" he hasn't.
Lots of interpretations.
But the OT was finished (I think) around 500 BCE
The NT was finished around 200 CE
The bible was agreed around 300 CE
Even within those short timescales Man has evolved.
We're still the same species we've always been.
@divegeester saidTake a good long look at this thread, and my posts in it, and maybe more telling, the posts of others in it, including you.
Instead of telling me to go and find what you’ve written about this topic dozens of times (of which I can remember none from the 12 or so years I’ve been here), why not just engage in grown up discussion now?
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/creation-and-evolution.177892
04 Sep 20
@wolfgang59 saidI think you misread her post. She said:
Regardless of the banter with divegeester .. how do you reconcile a constantly evolving
Man with a never-changing god. Howcan one be the image of the other forever?
'I don't happen to believe the concept that "God never changes".