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For those who only like to read a little bit.

Jesus about Himself - "I am the light of the world."

Jesus about the church fully under His authority - "You are the light of the world."

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The Holy Bible has more than a few verses that reference God indwelling believers:

“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

(John 14:16-17)

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”

(Romans 8:9)

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@PB1022

I am glad you wrote this.

What He is He wants us to be.
He is the unique Redeemer. We have no place in the doing of that work.

But He came to duplicate what He is as God in man in many others.
For example:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." (John 12:26)

"Why Jesus! Have you been following that Witness Lee guy from mainland China? This sounds like some Eastern cult."

The one grain contains the life which must be released into many grains. The one grain died not only to shed redemptive blood but to release that which was concealed in the shell of it humanity - the divine life of God.

Jesus also died to break open the concealed shell of His humanity to release into many grains what He is. This the "much fruit" He longed to produce.

He as God become a man is our object of worship. He alone has the Godhead.
But the communicable life of God His releases in His death and resurrection that He may duplicate what He is to produce a duplication of Himself.

In traditional Christianity we heard thousands of messages on Christ dying as the Lamb of God for bleed shedding and redemption. Now it is time for the Holy Spirit to shine on this aspect of His death and resurrection.

He died to release the live concealed within the shell of His humanity to reproduce God-men.

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@PB1022

Read this again folks!

The Holy Bible has more than a few verses that reference God indwelling believers:

“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

(John 14:16-17)

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”

(Romans 8:9)


The church needs to rise up and tell Satan we are tired of being cheated by his veils to the full gospel and the full economy of God.

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The village atheist says Witness Lee is twisting the New Testament. You see the village atheist really cares that the orthodox Christian doctrine be preserved. So he comes to staunchly defend against any twisting of the Bible.

Fine me the twist here;

"Jesus then said to them, The light is still among you a little while. Walk while you have the light so that darkness may not overcome you; and he who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going.

While you have the light, believe into the light, so that you may become sons of light." (JOhn 12:35,36)


What He is He desires that we become. He is light of the world. He said the kingdom people are the light of the world. They must become "sons of light".

The LIFE of Jesus Christ is the light of men.

"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (John 1:3)

He as the one grain with that life broke open, falling into the ground to die in crucifixion that He might RELEASE that within Him in duplication, producing many like the one grain.

He would NOT that the one grain be "ALONE".

Same chapter:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides ALONE . . . , but if it dies, it bears much fruit." (John 12:24)

Ghost of a Duke the village atheist is here to protect us all from this dangerous cult. This cult called the New Testament.

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The Holy Bible has more than a few verses that reference God indwelling believers:

“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

(John 14:16-17)


“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”

(Romans 8:9)


I want to follow this brother's insight into this.
This is the truth that I want to follow.

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@sonship said
What is the meaning of godliness ?
Let's let the New Testament DEFINE it. [my bolding]

"And confessedly, great is the mystery of GODLINESS:

He who was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the nations,
Believed on in the world,
Taken up in glory." ( 1 Tim. 3:16)


This describes godliness. I ...[text shortened]... lesh.
And the eventual growth and rapture of the church is ALSO a part God manifest in the flesh.
Why have you ignored:

"Godliness, when attributed to man, is not an act of 'becoming' God, but 'behaving' like God."

Attributed to 'man' sonship. Godliness is 'not' the same as 'God-ized' (A term invented by Witness Lee).

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@sonship said

Ghost of a Duke the village atheist is here to protect us all from this dangerous cult. This cult called the New Testament.
The New Testament isn't a cult. - Witness Lee is the cultist snake oil salesman, corrupting the New Testament.

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The village atheist only feels comfortable for traditional Christianity to furnish him rational to disbelieve that Bible.

Behave like the old time religion that he has known to love to reject.

No rebuttal to 2 Timothy 3:16 as it defines for us godliness.
Why am I not surprised?

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God alone is holy.
" . . . For You alone are holy." (See Rev. 15:4)

But wait! to be sanctified is to be made holy.
If you will it is to be "holy-ized".

You won't find "holy-ized" in the Bible. I invented that word just now.
However you will find sanctification.

You will not find "God-ized" in the Bible.
But if you are at all open to the truth you will notice sanctified, transformed, conformed, glorified, "the manifestation of the sons of God," "filled unto all the fulness of God"

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Godliness is 'not' the same as 'God-ized' (A term invented by Witness Lee).


Immortalized is probably a word you cannot fine in the Bible.
But you have God ALONE has immortality.
Then HOW do the saved obtain eternal life.

They are "IZED in some fashion,

"[God] Who alone has immortality . . . " (1 Tim. 6:16a)

He has to do SOMETHING to make His saved people possess what He ALONE has.
He, according to the new covenant dispenses something of Himself into man.

God alone is holy.
"For You alone are holy" (Rev. 16:4)[/b]

There is some _____ IZING of SOME kind to make us have what He ALONE has.

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Witness Lee used the term "Son-ized".
When I look it up I will verify that he also used the term "God-zed".

To drive the point home that God imparts INTO man His communicable attributes we can accept unusual and previously not used phrases.

You know it has a lot to do with a person's motive. "All things are pure to the pure. But to him who is defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure." (Titus 1:15)

Maybe Ghost of a Duke is defiled, unbelieving, and for him practically nothing out of the New Testament ministry is pure. He is diseased with unbelief and suspicion to save his own skin from anything threatening his self love.

"All things are pure to the pure; yet to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled." (Titus 1:15)

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke


"Godliness, when attributed to man, is not an act of 'becoming' God, but 'behaving' like God."


We can behave as God because we can be made into His living HOUSE.
The house of God which is the church of the living God.

God LIVING in man as godliness for the building of His house is the pillar and base of the truth.

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It is the impartting of the SEED of God into the believers which empowers them to live Christ, to live victorious over sin.

That is not imitation as say a poodle imitates a man walking by being on its hind legs.

It is behaving because of the life of God has been implanted into the man.

"Everyone who has been begotten of God does not practice sin, because His SEED abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God." (1 John 3:9)

This is imitation of God because God's life has been implanted into man as a living SEED. And this SEED spontaneously acts as God because it is the life of God.

Christ came to cause us to be BEGOTTEN of God with the life of God in Christ and transmitted into us through the Holy Spirit.

And if Witness Lee was an infrequent yet clear voice pointing out these things, that is God's business. No need to secure permission from the village atheist here.

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The jackassculatory nature of Ghost's criticism is exposed in the New Testament.

Oh, "jackassculatory" is a adverb I just made up. Sorry. I only point out that the imitation of God from His people is a matter of His life and nature being dispensed into them.

" . . . His seed abides in him . . . he has been begotten of God."

That is a matter of God placing His life into us.
This is not the invention of Witness Lee.
This is the Apostle John breathing out the inspired oracles of God.

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