Footprints in the Sand

Originally posted by KellyJay
What you are asking? You don't know, you cannot read my mind,
you may actually have to get my opinion before you start telling
me what I'm thinking and trying to say?
Kelly

I've tried that for 2 years, you only capitulated for the first time yesterday. Perhaps you feel I should only respond to you when you hand out your occasional titbits of information?

So, I'll ask you again, is or isn't your God omnipotent?

Originally posted by scottishinnz
I've tried that for 2 years, you only capitulated for the first time yesterday. Perhaps you feel I should only respond to you when you hand out your occasional titbits of information?

So, I'll ask you again, is or isn't your God omnipotent?

God is omnipotent.

Originally posted by josephw
God is omnipotent.

and omniscient?

Originally posted by scottishinnz
I've tried that for 2 years, you only capitulated for the first time yesterday. Perhaps you feel I should only respond to you when you hand out your occasional titbits of information?

So, I'll ask you again, is or isn't your God omnipotent?

No, you never asked me about my faith, you tell me about my faith
as you tell me about what I'm thinking about this, that, and the other
thing. You want to know what I believe, ask point blank, and you will
not have to assume, or attempt to read my mind. I don't respond
to your 'thoughts' as you attempt to read my mind, I cannot just
know what it is you want to know unless you make it quite clear! I do
not have the the ability to read minds, nor do I desire to guess what
it is you are trully interested in finding out, unless you tell me strait
up I don't know.

He can do everything that can be done, none can resist Him, or hinder
him when He chooses to act.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No, you never asked me about my faith, you tell me about my faith
as you tell me about what I'm thinking about this, that, and the other
thing. You want to know what I believe, ask point blank, and you will
not have to assume, or attempt to read my mind. I don't respond
to your 'thoughts' as you attempt to read my mind, I cannot just
know what it is yo ...[text shortened]... ything that can be done, none can resist Him, or hinder
him when He chooses to act.
Kelly

Stop playing the victim Kelly, I've asked you point blank several times - even yesterday, infact, and you've been obfuscatory.

I posted
"Your God isn't omnipotent?"

In response, you posted
"What you are asking? You don't know, you cannot read my mind,
you may actually have to get my opinion before you start telling
me what I'm thinking and trying to say?
Kelly"

Do you call that answering the question? I sure as heck don't!

Originally posted by KellyJay
He can do everything that can be done, none can resist Him, or hinder
him when He chooses to act.
Kelly

Can we take that as a yes?

Now is he omniscient?

Originally posted by josephw
God is omnipotent.

Does he have the power to deny himself?

Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
Does he have the power to deny himself?

He can do anything he wants to do.....

Originally posted by Jay Joos
He can do anything he wants to do.....

2 Timothy 2:13 says you're wrong.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Stop playing the victim Kelly, I've asked you point blank several times - even yesterday, infact, and you've been obfuscatory.

I posted
"Your God isn't omnipotent?"

In response, you posted
"What you are asking? You don't know, you cannot read my mind,
you may actually have to get my opinion before you start telling
me what I'm thinking and trying to say?
Kelly"

Do you call that answering the question? I sure as heck don't!

I guess you did not read the whole post, typical. Small wonder you
don' t have a clue what others believe you don't want to.

edit:
With regard to the first time you asked, I was being a smart a$$ to
you. I'm sorry, I was reacting out of emotion not what you were saying.
Kelly

Originally posted by twhitehead
Can we take that as a yes?

Now is he omniscient?

I'd say not the way I've seen the word defined. Since God says that
there are things He will forget and not remember any more.

Isaiah 43:25
"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

Kelly

Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
2 Timothy 2:13 says you're wrong.

I thought you studied scripture.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I thought you studied scripture.
Kelly

You actually think?

We must define the term differently.

Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
You actually think?

We must define the term differently.

If your going to question points and apply scripture to a discussion
you should at least get some that apply.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
If your going to question points and apply scripture to a discussion
you should at least get some that apply.
Kelly

What part of "He cannot deny himself" seems to lend itself to an equivocal stance on whether or not God can deny himself?

Is there even a single translation where it's translated "he doesn't choose to deny himself?" In every translation I find, the statement is that God does not have the ability to do anything counter to his nature.

It's not choice; it's a limitation of agency.