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31 May 05

RBHILL

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31 May 05

Good people don't go to heaven, but forgiven people do.

lucifershammer

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
Good people don't go to heaven, but forgiven people do.

Where do good people go?

RBHILL

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31 May 05

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Originally posted by lucifershammer
Where do good people go?

Well, if you are not forgiven your are already going to hell as does John 3:36 says.

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31 May 05

In the Bible God never says taht being good gets you to heaven he said through Jesus is the only way John 14:6.

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
Well, if yoou are not forgiven your are already going to hell as does John 3:36 says.

So if you're the nicest, friendliest, most religious person and never, ever do anything wrong so can't be forgiven... does that mean you don't go to Heaven?

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31 May 05

Originally posted by Daemon Sin
So if you're the nicest, friendliest, most religious person and never, ever do anything wrong so can't be forgiven... does that mean you don't go to Heaven?

The Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

And the wages of sin is death

Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23

Romans 3:22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction; 23 since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.[/b]

Is not a "gift" something that is given without being asked for (and given freely without the expectation of something in return)?

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31 May 05

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Originally posted by RBHILL
In the Bible God never says taht being good gets you to heaven he said through Jesus is the only way John 14:6.

This is a fundamentalist corruption of a valid spiritual teaching.

The idea behind "Jesus is the only way" is that Christ is a representative of or a symbol for truth. In terms of waking up out of delusions, "truth" is indeed the "only way". But once you make that truth into a particular form, you have corrupted what is inherently formless. Worse, you have given birth to a lie of monumental proportions.

The idea that "Christianity is the only way" (or Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, etc.) is a lie of monumental proportions.

The idea that truth is the only way is valid, and is the heart of all philosophic inquiry and spiritual development.

All that is left is then to discover what "truth" is, and this forms the basis of each person's personal psychological and spiritual growth, in accordance with their desire to know this truth.

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
Good people don't go to heaven, but forgiven people do.

You better hope so.

ES

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31 May 05

Originally posted by Phlabibit
You better hope so.

ES

I don't hope so, I know so.

1 John 5:13

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31 May 05

Originally posted by dags
Is not a "gift" something that is given without being asked for (and given freely without the expectation of something in return)?

Yes, exactly, but you still have to accept it

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
I don't hope so, I know so.

1 John 5:13

The Bible, 1 John 3:18
Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action.

What does that mean to you? It screams to me that you are the one who better worry.

ES

no1marauder

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31 May 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
Good people don't go to heaven, but forgiven people do.

Get around to reading Matthew 25 and James 2 yet?

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31 May 05

Originally posted by no1marauder
Get around to reading Matthew 25 and James 2 yet?

How could he? He's too busy damning good people to Hell.

I've got a feeling he's just being a Troll, that's what I hope anyway since his ideas are so very ignorant. Just as ignorant as the one rec he got for posting this thread.

To think Jesus wants good people in Hell is just about the most ignorant thing I can think of. I am quite sure Jesus wouldn't want RB to be his spokesman.

RanT!!!

ES

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31 May 05

Mark 10:17 Now as Jesus was starting out on his way, someone ran up to him, fell on his knees, and said, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 10:18 Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE.

RBHill doesn't damn anyone to hell. He simply speaks the truth of Jesus Christ. God is the only one who damns people to hell.