Originally posted by vistesdCan you explain what my version of Christianity is? Where did I make my own religion?
Look, I understand your position that a person must accept the gift offered (and not only accept it, but accept it in the right way according to the standards of your version of Christianity, and accept it in this mortal lifetime).
Originally posted by bobbob1056thTo be fair, I probably should not have said “your version.” I certainly do not know your whole understanding of the Christian message, only whatever glimpses you post here. But I will suggest this, pertaining to your post on God’s perfection and tolerance (which is all I really intended to address): search out the Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words that are translated into English as “perfect” and “sin.” And remember that, as a limited and imperfect being, no matter how you read and interpret the Bible, you are likely to do so imperfectly. None of us can do more than “see now as in a mirror dimly,” and it does not matter who or how many others see it just as we do. Trust in God’s grace and love, no matter what you “believe” or I “believe” (in the more contemporary meanings of that word, not what it means when it is used to translate the NT Greek word pisteo—another hint for study); that is what the faith of the Gospels is.
Can you explain what my version of Christianity is? Where did I make my own religion?
Originally posted by RBHILLSo what you're saying is that even if someone has never had the opportunity to either accept or reject your god they will go to your god's hell?
If someone doesn't know who Jesus or what hell is they will go there.
That is why we MUST preach the Gospel Romans 10:14-15.[/b]
Originally posted by RBHILLActually Jn 3:36 talks of those who disobey God (disobedience is a wilful rejection of a command; not the same as an inability to obey a command due to unavoidable reasons such as ignorance).
I am just saying what the word of God says without Jesus the wrath of God is still on you John 3:36.
If someone doesn't know who Jesus or what hell is they will go there.
That is why we MUST preach the Gospel Romans 10:14-15.
Besides, how do you interpret Romans 2:14-16 if people who have never heard of Jesus are doomed to Hell?
Originally posted by frogstompYou're as bad as some of the CR in the "Broken Record Dept."
The words of Christ are God's own
How do you guys derive Paul overiding Christ words on salvation'
and you asserting what you just did makes mockery of Christ's words
Get over it. Both the words of Christ and the Epistles of Paul are part of the Bible. Both the evangelist and Paul are drawing from the same source when they write.
Originally posted by bobbob1056th"Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."
Mark 10:17 Now as Jesus was starting out on his way, someone ran up to him, fell on his knees, and said, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 10:18 Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE.
RBHill doesn't damn anyone to hell. He simply speaks the truth of Jesus Christ. God is the only one who damns people to hell.
OK, so Jesus isn't God.
There's too many contradictions in that book.
Originally posted by KneverKnightFor there to be a contradiction, you must first have two statements, two propositions. You have one proposition and one question. I think what you have here is a enthymeme. So what propositions are un-stated, and what conclusion is being implied?
"Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."
OK, so Jesus isn't God.
There's too many contradictions in that book.