Hope for us all...

Originally posted by Rajk999
Correct. Lets see if has the guts to state clearly what the JWs believe.

I'm not answering any of your questions as it's useless and pointless as you could care less what I answer.....

Originally posted by galveston75
Well yes and no. It depends on where one is in life and their what their circumstances are. But first it is true that God has dealt with only certain groups or certain nations of people in the past. It's not that he doesn't love mankind as a whole and knows the heart condition of us all. But because of certain things he wanted accomplished or had promise ...[text shortened]... ith a group or religion, that is where you get instruction and knowledge from God himself.

So God instructs the JWs. Thats what you are saying. The JW group is the mouthpiece of God.

If this is in fact correct then why do the JWs make HUNDREDS of false prophesies and predictions about the future. Are you saying that God does not know the future?

Originally posted by galveston75
I'm not answering any of your questions as it's useless and pointless as you could care less what I answer.....

Try behaving like a man you blooming woman. Talk and say what you think !!!

Originally posted by Rajk999
Try behaving like a man you blooming woman. Talk and say what you think !!!

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Originally posted by divegeester
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Any chance of a yes or a no dude?

I'm not asking for the whole recipe, just whether or not this single ingredient is mandatory...

I will answer the question for Him. Yes by the JW standards you would have to join them in order to at least live on the or in the earthy paradise. Otherwise worse case scenario you get blotted out of existence. Also only the 144,000 actually get to live or be in heaven. This is truly what they believe.



Manny

Originally posted by Rajk999
Correct. Lets see if has the guts to state clearly what the JWs believe.

Clearly not. It is very strange. I am happy to explain Catholic doctrine as clearly as possible and I will not avoid a question directly put to me. Why is Galvo so reluctant to answer questions about his faith? Is he embarrassed by it or does he prefer to attack other religions rather than explain his?

Originally posted by galveston75
I apprecite your answer and I thought I had answered yours but I guess I need to know exactly what your referring to.
And I don't understand your thinking I'm arrogent with my answers. I'm answering with honest answers and ones that I believe in. Are you not doing the same? If so then we are just both being honest I would think if we are to have honest discussions then name calling should not be in the mix. Don't you think?

This is what i'm referring to -

Indeed, the picture that emerges bears a remarkable similarity to what is found in the opening chapters of the Bible book of Genesis. There, however, we find, not the vague language of legend, but the specific details of accurate history.

Accurate history according to whom?

And I don't understand your thinking I'm arrogent with my answers

It's not your answers and i don't for a minute doubt your honesty, it's your tone. It's the air of superiority which accompanies your answers, that's what i mean by arrogant.

I'm not name calling, i'm describing you.

Originally posted by Conrau K
Clearly not. It is very strange. I am happy to explain Catholic doctrine as clearly as possible and I will not avoid a question directly put to me. Why is Galvo so reluctant to answer questions about his faith? Is he embarrassed by it or does he prefer to attack other religions rather than explain his?

I could only guess as well. I believe in the words of Christ, which are simple and easy to interpret, and I am happy to proclaim it to anyone willing to hear.

What JWs believe is in a very narrow interpretation of the entire Bible and thats where the pitfalls are the greatest. So their problem I suspect is that none of them are 100% sure that they are correct. They simply hope they are.

Originally posted by Rajk999
I could only guess as well. I believe in the words of Christ, which are simple and easy to interpret, and I am happy to proclaim it to anyone willing to hear.

What JWs believe is in a very narrow interpretation of the entire Bible and thats where the pitfalls are the greatest. So their problem I suspect is that none of them are 100% sure that they are correct. They simply hope they are.

You sure seem to know what we all think and feel and believe. How is that? Are you also a psychic?
It seems as much eneregy as you put into "knowing us so well" you could use that for the betterment of mankind somehow.
Jesus said to preach the Good News Of the Kingdom which gives us all hope for a better future. If you'd like a Witness can come by and study with you and explain what that is and in turn would give you hope for a brighter future.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
This is what i'm referring to -

Indeed, the picture that emerges bears a remarkable similarity to what is found in the opening chapters of the Bible book of Genesis. There, however, we find, not the vague language of legend, [b]but the specific details of accurate history.

Accurate history according to whom?

And I don't understa answers, that's what i mean by arrogant.

I'm not name calling, i'm describing you.

Well I honestly want to appologize to you and any others that have I have shown a wrong attitude as that is not what I mean to do and it is certianly not what we are taught from our publications and schools. I am truley sorry but I am passionate about the Bible and even more so about the truths of the Bible.
I know you feel otherwise but as much as you don't believe in it..I do. And it's wrong but I'm human and some here, not yourself, never stop with the attacks.
And sorry about your question but I thought I had answered it as I really don't know what their sourses are for that statement as there is no referances printed. But I'm sure it's just a collection of them from the vast archive that I know they have.
But I'll research for you and see what I can come up with.....Thanks.

Originally posted by galveston75
You sure seem to know what we all think and feel and believe. How is that? Are you also a psychic?
It seems as much eneregy as you put into "knowing us so well" you could use that for the betterment of mankind somehow.
Jesus said to preach the Good News Of the Kingdom which gives us all hope for a better future. If you'd like a Witness can come by ...[text shortened]... tudy with you and explain what that is and in turn would give you hope for a brighter future.

Why would I want these so-called 'witnesses' to come and teach me? I have read extensively about what the JWs believe and I m familiar with what you and RC have said. Your doctrines do not conform to the teachings of Christ. Your prophesies have proven false time and time again.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Why would I want these so-called 'witnesses' to come and teach me? I have read extensively about what the JWs believe and I m familiar with what you and RC have said. Your doctrines do not conform to the teachings of Christ. Your prophesies have proven false time and time again.

Prophecies never work. It's against physics. If the JW culters believe in them, then it shows clearly how delusional they really are.
When they prophecize time after time, and are wrong all the time, don't they get it? Not even their god supports them, for crying out loud.

Originally posted by menace71
I will answer the question for Him. Yes by the JW standards you would have to join them in order to at least live on the or in the earthy paradise. Otherwise worse case scenario you get blotted out of existence. Also only the 144,000 actually get to live or be in heaven. This is truly what they believe.



Manny

Hello all, I am new to this site, and have been enjoying reading the discussions here, although as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I am sorry to see that there are some mis-understandings about our beliefs here, so I will try to clarify some if I can.

What Menace says here is partly correct, but an oversimplification that becomes incorrect when stated that simply. It is correct that the bible speaks of two groups, and only the members of the 144,000 are to be ruling with Jesus in heaven. However, the other group that Jesus spoke up as his "other sheep" at John 10:16 is the same group referred to at Revelation 7:9, 14 that shows that the members of this group have "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” In other words, they have exercised faith in Jesus as their Ransomer, have made a dedication to Jehovah, have symbolized their dedication by water baptism, and “hold a good conscience” by their upright conduct.

However, Jehovah is a God of love, so Acts 24:15 reveals information about His plans for the future, stating: “There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” So even “the unrighteous,” many individuals who did not know and serve Jehovah, will get a future opportunity to gain God’s favor.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Why would I want these so-called 'witnesses' to come and teach me? I have read extensively about what the JWs believe and I m familiar with what you and RC have said. Your doctrines do not conform to the teachings of Christ. Your prophesies have proven false time and time again.

The Witnesses have never claimed to be prophets so that would be an incorrect statement. But like any human on this planent misakes are made when there is insufficient knowledge or that God has not allowed the light of knowledge to shine brightly on a specific subject yet. So what you are referring to happened many decades ago and the misunderstandings of chronology with future events are more understood now. And just because things were misunderstood really means nothing. Did not God's people of old make mistakes on many things also?
So I would suggest learning what the new understandings are now and for the future and forget the past as it is the past. One who keeps looking back, stumbles.

Originally posted by micahchu
Hello all, I am new to this site, and have been enjoying reading the discussions here, although as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I am sorry to see that there are some mis-understandings about our beliefs here, so I will try to clarify some if I can.

What Menace says here is partly correct, but an oversimplification that becomes incorrect when stated that ...[text shortened]... duals who did not know and serve Jehovah, will get a future opportunity to gain God’s favor.

Mmmm .. fresh meat !!

So two questions :

1. Do you have any comment on the discussion concerning whether or not the JWs constitute THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION, and therefore the only religion by which one might have a chance to be part of the earthly paradise?

2. Why do the JWs insist on claiming that the 144,000 referred to in Revelation are not natural Jews and the descendents of Jacob, when it clearly states they are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel and identifies the tribes by name. Galveston already stated a few rather silly reasons for his belief. Do you have anything new to add? What he said makes no sense so no need to repeat his points.