Originally posted by FMF
It became altogether too much for me to swallow, I'm afraid, sonship. And once the credibility of the canon was dealt that blow, my faith in its authenticity ~ in its entirety ~ fell away. These things happen. 🙂
It became altogether too much for me to swallow, I'm afraid, sonship. And once the credibility of the canon was dealt that blow, my faith in its authenticity ~ in its entirety ~ fell away. These things happen.
Did you also have similar problems with Daniel, Ezekiel, and Zechariah ?
There is nothing that absolutely new in the book of Revelation. It is the culmination of themes already previously introduced in the Bible.
It is a grand finale like a great symphonic recapitulation of many aforementioned themes.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyEternity is one of those terms for which we have no real point of reference. All we know is when something began, is, or ended. To know what lies beyond is impossible because we have no point of reference.Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 3)
Yes, divegeester. Thought the open ended white space without perimeter symbolized non linear eternity.
whodey, wouldn't you agree that "reality" includes eternity before we were born and eternity after our deaths?
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Am I misreading your comments?
Originally posted by sonshipI've said this before but I don't think it sank in as of yet.It became altogether too much for me to swallow, I'm afraid, sonship. And once the credibility of the canon was dealt that blow, my faith in its authenticity ~ in its entirety ~ fell away. These things happen.
Did you also have similar problems with [b]Daniel, Ezekiel, and Zechariah ?
There is nothing that absolutely ...[text shortened]...
It is a grand finale like a great symphonic recapitulation of many aforementioned themes.[/b]
Originally posted by whodey(Page 7) "Fabian, is it possible that there isn't "any number writable" or unwritable, i. e., infinity/eternity is humanly unquantifiable?" Seems we've reached the same conclusion: (Page 5) "eternity is one helluva long, long while....."
Eternity is one of those terms for which we have no real point of reference. All we know is when something began, is, or ended. To know what lies beyond is impossible because we have no point of reference.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"Eternity is one helluva long, long while". That's right. Eternity never ends.
(Page 7) "Fabian, is it possible that there isn't "any number writable" or unwritable, i. e., infinity/eternity is humanly unquantifiable?" Seems we've reached the same conclusion: (Page 5) "eternity is one helluva long, long while....."
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell, some scientists say that the universe started with a Big Bang where everything was started, space as well as time. So according to this there was no time before the Big Bang. If this is hard to comprehend for you, then we feel the same.
Human beings tend to think of "Eternity" as future... ever given any thought to the eternity which preexisted time?
But there are also scientists that say that there was a time before Big Bang, an era that can be called Pre Big Bang. I see it as speculations, but I hold my door open to this speculation anyhow.
The Standard Big Bang theory explains what happened after after the bang, it doesn't deal with what happened before. To do that we need a brand new theory.
And to those who are anti-science - this has nothing to do with the evolution theory.
Originally posted by FabianFnasBoth "the Big Bang Theory" and the "Evolution Theory" are speculative beliefs and opinions masquerading as science.
Well, some scientists say that the universe started with a Big Bang where everything was started, space as well as time. So according to this there was no time before the Big Bang. If this is hard to comprehend for you, then we feel the same.
But there are also scientists that say that there was a time before Big Bang, an era that can be called Pre Big ...[text shortened]... theory.
And to those who are anti-science - this has nothing to do with the evolution theory.
Evolution: Mysticism Religion Masquerading as Science
Originally posted by RJHindsWe've been through this, not once but numerous times. Your opinion differs from the scientific community.
Both "the Big Bang Theory" and the "Evolution Theory" are speculative beliefs and opinions masquerading as science.
Evolution: Mysticism Religion Masquerading as Science
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oReUQBA3c8
Originally posted by FabianFnasIf there was a "Big Bang" who or what started the Big Bang.... and if it was efficient why wasn't it known as a Little Bang? Also how did the material/corporeal part of men and woman provide their immaterial inner being? Just speculating aloud.
Well, some scientists say that the universe started with a Big Bang where everything was started, space as well as time. So according to this there was no time before the Big Bang. If this is hard to comprehend for you, then we feel the same.
But there are also scientists that say that there was a time before Big Bang, an era that can be called Pre Big ...[text shortened]... theory.
And to those who are anti-science - this has nothing to do with the evolution theory.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThis is the spiritual forum, and I cannot explain Big Bang in these terms.
If there was a "Big Bang" who or what started the Big Bang.... and if it was efficient why wasn't it known as a Little Bang? Also how did the material/corporeal part of men and woman provide their immaterial inner being? Just speculating aloud.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHow it started is the subject of much hypothesis. As far as I am aware, at the moment there is nothing that can properly be called a theory (in the rigorous scientific sense).
If there was a "Big Bang" who or what started the Big Bang.... and if it was efficient why wasn't it known as a Little Bang? Also how did the material/corporeal part of men and woman provide their immaterial inner being? Just speculating aloud.
What do you mean by 'efficient'? What has efficiency got to do with size? And it was originally called the 'big bang' by proponents of the steady state theory as a derogatory term. It is not descriptive of the event in any meaningful way.
No one has demonstrated any 'immaterial inner being' that is not the results of the processes going on in our brains, so there is nothing to explain here.
--- Penguin
Originally posted by Penguin'efficient'.... effective/focused use and application of resources in contrast to random or sloppy.
How it started is the subject of much hypothesis. As far as I am aware, at the moment there is nothing that can properly be called a theory (in the rigorous scientific sense).
What do you mean by 'efficient'? What has efficiency got to do with size? And it was originally called the 'big bang' by proponents of the steady state theory as a derogatory term. ...[text shortened]... lts of the processes going on in our brains, so there is nothing to explain here.
--- Penguin