22 Jul 06
Originally posted by whodeyIt is the most arrogant concept ever brought about by humans, to think there is a god out there who will hold your hand and save our sorry asses if you just believe enough. It is pretty clear no god gives a crap what happens to mankind or the earth. We are doing a really good job of destroying it and no god has come forward to say 'enough of this BS' and stops us in our tracks. Its one thing for men to be killing other men by the millions but when mankind kills the planet like now, a god had BETTER stop it or the earth will be just another desert world. What would you say then, mr Christian man?
You assume that all religious people are arrogant. Is it arrogant thinking that you know the truth about something? If so, then every one is arrogant. What can be arrogant is the way in which you portray to others what you think the truth about something is. If they were a student of the Bible, they would see that humility is the path one should travel an ...[text shortened]... e learned by all of his creation. It is the relationship between the infinite and the finite.
22 Jul 06
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Originally posted by sonhouseIf you read Matthew 24 it appears as though God wil intervene in the very end as the Messiah returns. It seems he will return in order to prevent man from killing himself off completly. God will continue to allow men their free will, which for the most part has been the rejection of himself. The lesson learned is that if you reject the God of life you are in reality choosing the god of death and destruction.
It is the most arrogant concept ever brought about by humans, to think there is a god out there who will hold your hand and save our sorry asses if you just believe enough. It is pretty clear no god gives a crap what happens to mankind or the earth. We are doing a really good job of destroying it and no god has come forward to say 'enough of this BS' and st ...[text shortened]... it or the earth will be just another desert world. What would you say then, mr Christian man?
BTW if God is real you are part of his creation. Who then is being arrogant, the all knowing Creator or you?
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by shavixmirI think you've definately got a point to a certain degree. Many Christians I've known tend to consider themselves morally superior than non-Christians, and believers of other religions, and this is largely mirrored in the other religions themselves. Some of the most humble, good-willed and selfless people I've met are non-Christians, and some of the most arrogant, predjudiced, discriminative tyrants are devout Christians. But, like anything, it all depends on the individual, not the group.
I don't know if arrogance is a sin or not, and to be quite honest, I don't give a damn either.
But Christians seem to me to be quite arrogant.
Well... not only Christians, let me be quite Frank (or Bob... see if I care) about this, humanity seems to me to be quite arrogant when it comes to religion.
But, to make my point a little smaller and easi ...[text shortened]... wrote this down? It's arrogance plain and simple.
Or God is petty.
Which is it?
What you're saying seems to be a reflection of humankind. We are selfish and arrogant in nature. My personal belief is that Man created God, as a means of explaining what could otherwise not be explained, and so of course God is going to be interested in our species, because we were the ones who created him.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by shavixmirGOD tests humans because humans are in the image of himself(where our shape is concerned). Because of this fact, we have spirits, souls, whatever you decide to call it. These spirits dewll for eternity because GOD is eternal.
I don't know if arrogance is a sin or not, and to be quite honest, I don't give a damn either.
But Christians seem to me to be quite arrogant.
Well... not only Christians, let me be quite Frank (or Bob... see if I care) about this, humanity seems to me to be quite arrogant when it comes to religion.
But, to make my point a little smaller and easi ...[text shortened]... wrote this down? It's arrogance plain and simple.
Or God is petty.
Which is it?
The only problem is where you dwell eternally because if you do not accept the son of GOD(since adam and eve sinned) we cannot enter into the eternal bliss and majesty of the one true GOD.
If Adam and Eve didn't sin, then we would be directly connected with GOD, not living naked in a garden, but in the bliss of GOD.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by BromageReally?
I think you've definately got a point to a certain degree. Many Christians I've known tend to consider themselves morally superior than non-Christians, and believers of other religions, and this is largely mirrored in the other religions themselves. Some of the most humble, good-willed and selfless people I've met are non-Christians, and some of the most arr ...[text shortened]... urse God is going to be interested in our species, because we were the ones who created him.
What concoctions do the mind of foolish men develop!
Too much in the darkness to see what makes them stumble.
The word of GOD is peace umong all mankind. The Earth is corrupted with wickedness because of sins. It is up to the Christians and Jews to spread the truth and all who accept the word that Christ came to Earth and died for us. By spreading the truth to non-believers, we speed the day of Christ's return and will not be able to point at the sheep and say we never told you.
I would be pleasing if you would live a righteous life in the sight of the Lord, but only those whose names have been written in the Lamb's Book of Life can enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
The devil has his children.
For wickedness holds those who practice it bound.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by royaltystatementSorry, the fire and brimstone crap is wasted on me.
Really?
What concoctions do the mind of foolish men develop!
Too much in the darkness to see what makes them stumble.
The word of GOD is peace umong all mankind. The Earth is corrupted with wickedness because of sins. It is up to the Christians and Jews to spread the truth and all who accept the word that Christ came to Earth and died for us. B ...[text shortened]... om of Heaven.
The devil has his children.
For wickedness holds those who practice it bound.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by amannionSpot on mate, I tried putting this to him before but, you know me, less eloquently, and with less patience.
RS, this is all sounding like a broken record.
Hell, Christ, God, Blasphemy, Hell, Death, Eternal Life, Hell, Christ ... blah blah blah.
Try this.
Stop spouting crap for a moment.
Take a deep breath.
Read a good book - anything other than the bible will do.
Take another deep breath.
Now, try writing some of your ideas, some of your own thoughtful i ...[text shortened]... en filling your head with is ... someone else's. You'll be blown away by your own thoughts ...
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by sonhouseAnd why should he? Humankind made the choice to sin and leave God. We are suffering for that now. Eve willingly followed the Devil when he tempted her in the garden, we knowingly and willingly commit acts that might hurt others.
...no god has come forward to say 'enough of this BS' and stops us in our tracks...
I'm not just talking about direct hurt, but things like clothes- how many of you are certain that none of the clothes you wear have come from a sweat-shop where children are forced to work for pitiful wages? How many of you boycott all brands which cause people harm (eg. Coca Cola)? Yet, we all know that the bad things are happening, and that we could do just a little bit to help stop them- but we don't.
Aren't people who watch bullies and do nothing to stop them just as bad as the bullies themselves? That is what we are. All of us.
God loves us enough that he gave us the choice to take our own path. If he tried to 'stop us in our tracks' he would be taking away our free will. He allows bad things to happen so that we have a clear choice- do we go along with the bad things, or do we complain while doing nothing, or do we devote our lives to making a positive change in the world?
When we die, God will judge us based on how we have acted on Earth. Either we can choose to reject him (or continue rejecting him in some cases), and then eternity will be spent regretting the times you thought it wouldn't matter what you did. Or, we can choose to follow him, and then all the 'BS' will stop for us.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by borissaGod, I hate you ultra moralistic, ultra-hypocritical types.
And why should he? Humankind made the choice to sin and leave God. We are suffering for that now. Eve willingly followed the Devil when he tempted her in the garden, we knowingly and willingly commit acts that might hurt others.
I'm not just talking about direct hurt, but things like clothes- how many of you are certain that none of the clothes you wear h ...[text shortened]... r what you did. Or, we can choose to follow him, and then all the 'BS' will stop for us.
Sweat-shops aren't nice places, sure, but I watched a doco on them, and the seriously increase the money going into these poor areas. Often these companies build schools, playgrounds etc too.
As for your imaginary friend, well, I don't care a damn for him.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by borissashut up fag
And why should he? Humankind made the choice to sin and leave God. We are suffering for that now. Eve willingly followed the Devil when he tempted her in the garden, we knowingly and willingly commit acts that might hurt others.
I'm not just talking about direct hurt, but things like clothes- how many of you are certain that none of the clothes you wear h ...[text shortened]... r what you did. Or, we can choose to follow him, and then all the 'BS' will stop for us.
22 Jul 06
Originally posted by royaltystatementlol. The Jews, too? Bet they'd be surprised to find out they're supposed to be spreading the gospel of the NT. You sure about that, sparky?
It is up to the Christians and Jews to spread the truth and all who accept the word that Christ came to Earth and died for us.