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08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaI asked you a question further up this page, are you going to respond?
This all goes well with the Christian concept that we are often misbehaving And even if we are not misbehaving, we are sometimes inadequate or misreading a situation and not properly being there for someone.
I knew a guy who killed himself. We were buddies -- I saw him six or seven hours before he took the plunge, and we both literally said "Oh man, ...[text shortened]... I close my eyes and sigh lightly, realizing It Is A Beautiful World And I Am Not Afraid To die.
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaWhat's the "how to forgive" angle in this anecdote?
I knew a guy who killed himself. We were buddies -- I saw him six or seven hours before he took the plunge, and we both literally said "Oh man, we should hang out more!" The guy broke up with his fiancee and I was never really near enough to him to help him and I have felt, to some degree, inadequate, and like I should have done something more...
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I apologise for accidentally misrepresenting you, it was not intentional.
You’re misrepresenting my position. I’m not “hoping” that happens. It just will.
How does what you are posting relate to you understanding how to forgive?
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfIt seems that some here are not interested in discussing “how to forgive”.
What's the "how to forgive" angle in this anecdote?
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009One Christian poster on this site famously (or infamously depending on your point of view) stated a couple of years back that the knowledge that people who he perceived as mistreating him were in eternal hell being burnt alive, helped him forgive them.
You’re misrepresenting my position. I’m not “hoping” that happens. It just will.
I think your post triggered a memory of that in me for some reason.
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08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThat’s not what I think or believe.
One Christian poster on this site famously (or infamously depending on your point of view) stated a couple of years back that the knowledge that people who he perceived as mistreating him were in eternal hell being burnt alive, helped him forgive them.
I think your post triggered a memory of that in me for some reason.
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Ok. I’m still not clear on the intent of your post though?
That’s not what I think or believe.
Originally posted by @romans1009What do Psalm 73:17, Psalm 37:1-2 and Psalm 37:20 lead you to believe with regard to 'how to forgive'? If "God's Holy Spirit" has, indeed, inspired you to select, copy and paste those particular verses, why is it that they don't address the OP?
That’s not what I think or believe.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterYou’ve misrepresented what I think twice - once by claiming I’m “hoping” people are damned and another by linking me to some unnamed Christian who takes pleasure in thinking of people burning in hell.
Ok. I’m still not clear on the intent of your post though?
Why should I waste my time trying to have a conversation with you? The Psalms (73 and 37) speak for themselves.
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Originally posted by @fmfThey do address the OP.
What do Psalm 73:17, Psalm 37:1-2 and Psalm 37:20 lead you to believe with regard to 'how to forgive'? If "God's Holy Spirit" has, indeed, inspired you to select, copy and paste those particular verses, why is it that they don't address the OP?
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I misrepresented you once, then I apologised. My other post was an explaination of how my mind was triggered in the first place. I have apologised, and do so again. It was honestly not my intention to to misrepresent you.
You’ve misrepresented what I think twice - once by claiming I’m “hoping” people are damned and another by linking me to some unnamed Christian who takes pleasure in thinking of people burning in hell.
Why should I waste my time trying to have a conversation with you? The Psalms (73 and 37) speak for themselves.
I’m still not clear on your motivations for posting those scriptures about judgement though, but if you don’t want to discuss them for some reason then that’s fine.
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The Psalms and James 4:14 speak of the shortness of this life when viewed in the context of eternity. The Psalms also speak to God meting out whatever justice is due, and because He’s a perfectly holy and just God, that justice will be appropriate.
“Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”
(Romans 12:19)
08 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009What does this have to do with people forgiving each other?
The Psalms and James 4:14 speak of the shortness of this life when viewed in the context of eternity. The Psalms also speak to God meting out whatever justice is due, and because He’s a perfectly holy and just God, that justice will be appropriate.
“Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”
(Romans 12:19)