14 Dec 12
Originally posted by Proper Knobwhy should i , I have no affinity with shortcircuit, Gman on the other hand is my
Do you think you'd feel the same way about this soap opera if if was instead played out in the clan only forum, with shortcircuit playing the role of Galveston and someone from IVV playing the role of FMF?
spiritual brother, you cant mess with him.
Originally posted by Agergyou can dispute all you like, its simply a vile and unsubstantiated insinuation, like
Having been made aware of the post where you said you had alerted the moderator with regards to what you think is harassment on the part of FMF, I am not disputing "[you] alerted the moderator with regard to FMFs [supposed] harassment". I am disputing that you were honest when you implied you didn't send such an alert via your earlier response:
"w ...[text shortened]... being harassed."
My last post details why I feel justified to dispute your honesty.
your original text, made completely without the slightest evidence. Now while such
shoddy sensationalistic journalism may suit your skulduggery, to us that are
interested in truth,we tend to deal with empirical evidence. Do you have any
evidence that i did not send a text, no you do not, all you have is a statement that i
made with regard to a private text that was being discussed at the time.
here are your words, in that context
I do doubt Galveston75 has shown the moderators the actual PM he sent you
evidence nil, vile insinuations 2
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieyou can dispute all you like, its simply a vile and unsubstantiated insinuation
you can dispute all you like, its simply a vile and unsubstantiated insinuation, like
your original text, made completely without the slightest evidence. Now while such
shoddy sensationalistic journalism may suit your skulduggery, to us that are
interested in truth,we tend to deal with empirical evidence. Do you have any
evidence that i did ...[text shortened]... veston75 has shown the moderators the actual PM he sent you
evidence nil, vile insinuations 2
I substantiated it as follows:
Given that it was me saying:
[quote]I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been ignored. Furthermore, I do doubt Galveston75 has shown the moderators the actual PM he sent you (he is feeble, but not *that* feeble!).
which prompted your:
why would i send an alert to the moderators? i am not the one being harassed.
with no caveat that you were referring only to the redistribution of a PM to other members via PM, and that you instead specifically refer to harassment, your response here doesn't stand. You knew full well you were making a deceptive statement. You are trying to be deceptive here also.[/quote]
Do you have any evidence that i did not send a text
Why is this relevant? I don't believe I made any claim you did not send a text. Are you trying to duck away from this by obfuscating the issue Robbie Carrobie? You will have to try harder - I'm wide awake.
here are your words,
I do doubt Galveston75 has shown the moderators the actual PM he sent you
*You* are not referenced in this - I am referring to galveston75 and FMF
Originally posted by AgergWas I the one being harassed, no i was not, the statement is therefore truthful, twice i
[b]you can dispute all you like, its simply a vile and unsubstantiated insinuation
I substantiated it as follows:
[quote]Given that it was me saying:
[quote]I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been he sent you
[/b]
*You* are not referenced in this - I am referring to galveston75 and FMF[/b]
am mentioned in your text, not once, but twice,
if you have evidence to the contrary that i considered myself as being the subject of
harassment and that this prompted me sending a text then please produce it, otherwise
the statement is truthful and your insinuations of dishonesty are unsubstantiated
claims for which you have not the slightest evidence.
wide awake, are you sure? give your bum a wee feel, maybe your dozing off.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut it was you who suggested that he was uncomfordable answering the questions. And I suggest that if the Gman is actually uncomfordable dealing with queries to his contentious statements this is not the place for him. The problem is his, not FMFs. As to your suggestion that FMF and myself are one and the same, we nearly could not be further apart in the world. I am sure the site could confirm this through our IP addresses.
yes i suggested because as i tried to make clear to you i have no real way of knowing
although it was perfectly clear to me in private correspondence with the Gman that he
finds FMF contentious and that is the reason i gave, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, HE FINDS
FMF MERELY CONTENTIOUS now may i offer another suggestion FMF, errrr i mean
deenny that you accept that reason, suck it up and stop being such a pestilent fellow,
there's a good chap.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by deennynot only did i suggest it, i gave you the reason why, now write it on a piece of paper,
But it was you who suggested that he was uncomfordable answering the questions. And I suggest that if the Gman is actually uncomfordable dealing with queries to his contentious statements this is not the place for him. The problem is his, not FMFs. As to your suggestion that FMF and myself are one and the same, we nearly could not be further apart in the world. I am sure the site could confirm this through our IP addresses.
lick it and slap it to your forehead for future reference, there's a good chap.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWas I the one being harassed, no i was not, the statement is therefore truthful
Was I the one being harassed, no i was not, the statement is therefore truthful, twice i
am mentioned in your text, not once, but twice,
if you have evidence to the contrary that i considered myself as being the subject of
harassment and that this prompted me sending a text then please produce it.
I said:
I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been ignored...
You responded with:
why would i send an alert to the moderators? i am not the one being harassed.
yet it has already been established you said, 3rd post from bottom in http://www.redhotchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=150006&page=10:
I have also alerted his posts hopefully he will leave you in peace or he will be forced to do so. Creepy or what?
This is a clear contradiction.
twice i am mentioned in your text, not once, but twice
You are mentioned twice (once in an implicit sense) only in this context:
I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been ignored.
so what!? 😕
if you have evidence to the contrary that i considered myself as being the subject of harassment and that this prompted me sending a text then please produce it.
I have made no claim you considered yourself as being harassed - this line of defence is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Agergplease answer the following questions,
[b]Was I the one being harassed, no i was not, the statement is therefore truthful
I said:I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been ignored...
You responded with:
[quote]why would i se made no claim you considered yourself as being harassed - this line of defence is irrelevant.[/b]
question 1. did I consider myself as the one being harassed, yes or no
question 2. did this prompt me to send a text to the modertaors, yes or no
you failed to answer the first time, lets see if you can do better this time Agers,
If no and no, then my statement is true and your accusations of dishonesty and/or
contradictory statements are false.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiequestion 1. did I consider myself as the one being harassed, yes or no
please answer the questions,
question 1. did I consider myself as the one being harassed, yes or no
question 2. did this prompt me to send a text to the modertaors, yes or no
you failed to answer the first time, lets see if you can do better this time Agers,
If no and no, then my statement is true and your accusations of dishonesty are false.
No - why is this relevant? where did I suggest you were?
question 2. did this prompt me to send a text to the modertaors, yes or no
No - why is this relevant? where did I suggest you were prompted to send a text to the moderators on account of being harrassed?
if no and no, then my statement is true and your accusations of dishonesty are false.
How you were lying was clearly demonstrated in my last post when I said:
Was I the one being harassed, no i was not, the statement is therefore truthful
I said:
[quote]I don't doubt for a moment that either of Galveston75, or Robbie Carrobie have sent an alert to the moderators; the thing is, much to their embarrassment and annoyance, they have most likely been ignored...
You responded with:
why would i send an alert to the moderators? i am not the one being harassed.
yet it has already been established you said, 3rd post from bottom in http://www.redhotchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=150006&page=10:
I have also alerted his posts hopefully he will leave you in peace or he will be forced to do so. Creepy or what?
This is a clear contradiction.[/quote]
You are not going to distract me from this issue by attempting to kick dust in my face Robbie Carrobie.
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"... Not having an orthodox belief system to support me, and refusing to succumb to-the-make-it-up-as-you-go-along spirituality of this our darkling and narcissistic age, I have ever sought solace in the secular salvation of textual criticism, remembering-with Erasmus-that unless we purify our texts we can never hope to purify ourselves." (Thread's OP)
Wondering how much further the frenetic, childish text of the ensuing 'conversation' will depart from the OP's calm tone and reasoned focus.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWondering how much further the frenetic, childish text of the ensuing 'conversation' will depart from the OP's calm tone and reasoned focus.
"... Not having an orthodox belief system to support me, and refusing to succumb to-the-make-it-up-as-you-go-along spirituality of this our darkling and narcissistic age, I have ever sought solace in the secular salvation of textual criticism, remembering-with Erasmus-that unless we purify our texts we can never hope to purify ourselves." (Thread's OP) ...[text shortened]... t of the ensuing 'conversation' will depart from the OP's calm tone and reasoned focus.
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Robbie Carrobie is tying himself in knots...and I'm having too much fun helping him accomplish that...you don't want to stop me from having fun do you? :'(
Originally posted by Agergthis is the content and the meaning of my statement Agers, I will produce it again
[b]question 1. did I consider myself as the one being harassed, yes or no
No - why is this relevant? where did I suggest you were?
question 2. did this prompt me to send a text to the modertaors, yes or no
No - why is this relevant? where did I suggest you were prompted to send a text to the moderators on account of being harrasse not going to distract me from this issue by attempting to kick dust in my face Robbie Carrobie.[/b]
for you,
why would i alert the moderators, (condition) I am not the one being harassed.
Was I the one being harassed, answer no, therefore on the basis of not being
harassed i did not feel the necessity to send a text to the moderators on my behalf,
the statement is therefore true and your insinuation of both dishonesty and
contradiction on the basis of the above are false. The qualifying denominator in the
above statement above is it made with regard to whether I was the the recipient of
harassment, not someone else as was the case with my first statement page 3 which
you so kindly quoted. As you have obviously and erroneously assumed that they
are both one and the same it has lead you to once again to assign fictional values to
an assumption of your own making and draw erroneous conclusions of dishonesty
and contradiction on its basis, its no use crying about it Agers, it happens.
Originally posted by Agergactual I am nowhere near tying myself in knots, but thanks for proving that you are
[b]Wondering how much further the frenetic, childish text of the ensuing 'conversation' will depart from the OP's calm tone and reasoned focus.
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Robbie Carrobie is tying himself in knots...and I'm having too much fun helping him accomplish that...you don't want to stop me from having fun do you? :'([/b]
merely being contentious for contentiousness sake. My statements are both clear and
succinct, if you wish to simply assume values and assign them to others and base
fictional arguments upon those assumptions then that's up to you. I have therefore the
sad announcement that you will now also be placed on ignore as a time waster until
such times as you are deemed to be worthy of my precious time, goodbye dear Agers,
wish you well.
15 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyexactly GB, welcome to the FMF school for scoundrels, of which our friend Agers
"... Not having an orthodox belief system to support me, and refusing to succumb to-the-make-it-up-as-you-go-along spirituality of this our darkling and narcissistic age, I have ever sought solace in the secular salvation of textual criticism, remembering-with Erasmus-that unless we purify our texts we can never hope to purify ourselves." (Thread's OP) ...[text shortened]... t of the ensuing 'conversation' will depart from the OP's calm tone and reasoned focus.
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graduated with honours.