Originally posted by FabianFnasUltimate truth: All life is greater than any death!
I repeat what I said earlier: Whenever someone says he has the "Ultimate Truth", then I am sure he hasn't. Becuase if the Christian truths are the Ultimate Truth, then it must include snake handlers, anti-bloodtransfusionists, pope-worshipper, and Behe-idolizing. Tell us an Ultimate Truth that can include all these without watering out the truth into noth ...[text shortened]...
And perhaps you have a better theory, I am glad for you. Perhaps yours are better than mine.
Fabian,
I am not saying that I believe in "Ignorance is bliss." What I am saying, is that "Ignorance is bliss" is a saying. And how it applies to us is that if we are ignorant about something or someone, then it can leave us without concern.
The problem is that if we are ignorant about God who provides us salvation in Jesus, then we will pay for our ignorance. Our ignorance may leave us for now with a feeling of enjoyment, so to speak. We can live our lives with pleasures of what God, in the bible, calls "sin." But our ignorance will lead to our punishment later.
Therefore, not knowing something is directly related to your desire for universal truth. Deer do not know to get out of the way of car headlights at night. As a result, they are hit and even killed.
But according to the bible, lack of knowledge about our eternal destiny can lead to eternal consequences that are even more hurtful than our human deaths.
We cannot see many things in our current life with our eyes. Why should it be so difficult to accept by faith a God who wants to save us and give us eternal life?
Originally posted by sonhouseMaybe a real god would expect his creation to learn from thier mistakes.
What I mean by OCD of religion is if people didn't take religion so seriously there would be far less death attributed to religious wars and that would give mankind a chance at real maturity. As it stands now with all these man made religions, each on thinking it is the TRUE religion, when in fact NONE are true, ALL are simply made up by men, mostly men lit ...[text shortened]... grade B movie.
Another man made contrivance cleverly set up to scare people into submission.
Maybe a real god would guide in a fashion that would teach us to have faith in him and eachother. Maybe a real god would have an understanding that we can not fathom.
Fabian,
The value of "the truth" of God's realm is not so that it can be debated and argued over. The value of it is knowing it and acting on it, so that we do not suffer as a consequence and so that we are benefited as a consequence.
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I John 4; 14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Originally posted by FabianFnasYou wish to debate opinions?
Would you like to debate your definition or mine of what truth is?
As I have been pointing out to you post after post, that my grasping of the
Truth does not mean anything, it does not add to or take away from it, and
you are no better.
We can discuss how we view life and many of the things about it, but that
is only how we view things, the truth of it all will not be altered by our views
about it, be they spot on or by being way off.
Kelly
Pudgenik,
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Maybe a real god would expect his creation to learn from thier mistakes.
Maybe a real god would guide in a fashion that would teach us to have faith in him and eachother. Maybe a real god would have an understanding that we can not fathom.
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God in the bible, calls some of our ways, "sin." Man does not know enough in this world to learn from unGodly mistakes. The world is blind to some extent even among christians.
As to why God does not guide all of us. Christ did come to the earth and he died for our sins so that we can have eternal life, freedom from the sin nature, and forgiveness for sin. However, why God does not teach all of us continually throughout human existance, I don't know.
And as for God's wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, the bible includes the passage below:
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Ephesians 3: 19-21
And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Originally posted by PudgenikAnd that's all there is about it? "All life is greater than any death!" Doesn't it answer the more difficult questions?
Ultimate truth: All life is greater than any death!
Like where does gravity come from? Or why does Russia invade Krim? Or how did the first life emerge on Earth?
"All life is greater than any death!" And that's all?
Originally posted by KingOnPointSo this is your truth? Do you think all 7 billion of people on this globe agrees with you? Or isn't your truth debatable?
Fabian,
The value of "the truth" of God's realm is not so that it can be debated and argued over. The value of it is knowing it and acting on it, so that we do not suffer as a consequence and so that we are benefited as a consequence.
King James Version
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I John 4; 14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Originally posted by KellyJayIf you want to debate that opinions are equal to truths, yes, let's debate this.
You wish to debate opinions?
As I have been pointing out to you post after post, that my grasping of the
Truth does not mean anything, it does not add to or take away from it, and
you are no better.
We can discuss how we view life and many of the things about it, but that
is only how we view things, the truth of it all will not be altered by our views
about it, be they spot on or by being way off.
Kelly
What if thinking for yourself lead you to accept the authority of the Vedas in your search for truth.
The Vedas are perfect and they will teach you absolute truth.
There is no truth higher than absolute truth.
Absolute truth shall inform you to remember who you truly are.
At the moment you do not know who you are.
Originally posted by DasaDo you think you possess Universal Truth, Ultimate truth, or Absolute Truth?
What if thinking for yourself lead you to accept the authority of the Vedas in your search for truth.
The Vedas are perfect and they will teach you absolute truth.
There is no truth higher than absolute truth.
Absolute truth shall inform you to remember who you truly are.
At the moment you do not know who you are.
Originally posted by FabianFnasVeda means knowledge.
Do you think you possess Universal Truth, Ultimate truth, or Absolute Truth?
The Vedas are the original source of absolute truth.
The Vedas are eternal.
And it goes without saying that they have existed before the Roman Empire and before the Pyramids etc..
The Vedas have been presented to mankind in the language of Sanskrit 5000 yrs ago because before that they were communicated orally.
Those who have come to understand and accept thoroughly the Vedic spiritual teachings are in possession of the absolute truth and therefore have the ability to know the absolute truth just like someone who is in possession of a good dictionary has the ability to know and understand the English language.
You cannot Google the Vedas and get an honest explanation of the meaning of the Vedas because there are hundreds of speculators.
Go to www.veda.harekrsna.cz and go to the search box and type in anything you wish to know about absolute knowledge.
Your well wisher ............Dasa.